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re: Can Florida be the suprise team in the SEC this year?
Posted on 5/15/14 at 4:49 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Posted on 5/15/14 at 4:49 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Neither of these teams were better than us last year
Both teams (SC and Georgia) had way better QBs then us, better offense, better special teams, and a healthier defense.
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Posted on 5/15/14 at 4:50 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Zook was fired because the president wanted Meyer and we all know that and Zook did beat good teams but had young qb Leak and it cost him. Honestly Zook recruited like a mad man and put the team on the field for Urban to win with HIS seniors in 2006....what happened the following year after we only had 2 starters back on defense? We lost games in shootouts, but Tebow won the Heisman.
Now can we squeeze six pages out of this?
Now can we squeeze six pages out of this?
Posted on 5/15/14 at 5:45 pm to gatordmb89
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this place won't be allowed to turn into trailer trash like most UF boards have.
Youre doing good work here, dmb
And 5 pages on this board
Posted on 5/15/14 at 6:19 pm to gatordmb89
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Entertain, Execute, Excite.
Execute first please...
Posted on 5/15/14 at 8:36 pm to KajunGator
I just get the feeling that Gator fans would rather be 9-3 with exciting offense than 11-1 with ball control offense and stout as a brickwall defense. I don't get it. I love watching defense and its exciting sometimes just as much as offense. Winning is also exciting and Ws make ball control more fun.
Believe me...I loved Spurriers offense in the 1990s...but look at him now...adjusting to read zones and run games more than ever. Remember that the team i98n college football that wins the rushing yardage battle wins 89% of the games and usually the 11% that don't win are because the total rushing yardage was very close, or turnovers skewed results and even sometimes a hailstorm of flags can offset rushing yardage.
Believe me...I loved Spurriers offense in the 1990s...but look at him now...adjusting to read zones and run games more than ever. Remember that the team i98n college football that wins the rushing yardage battle wins 89% of the games and usually the 11% that don't win are because the total rushing yardage was very close, or turnovers skewed results and even sometimes a hailstorm of flags can offset rushing yardage.
Posted on 5/15/14 at 10:23 pm to olemc999
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Both teams (SC and Georgia) had way better QBs then us, better offense, better special teams, and a healthier defense.
Georgia was decimated just as much as we were and they executed when they had to. That was the bottom line. We had a better team than Georgia this year, and for damn sure last year and let them beat us. Literally, let them.
We use a different format for our offense......well, we might have some production.
Posted on 5/15/14 at 11:02 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
But only the format where we never kick field goals and score 70 million touchdowns, like any decent Florida team should...
Like the ole ball coach used to do when he never lost by fgs... oh wait....
Like the ole ball coach used to do when he never lost by fgs... oh wait....
Posted on 5/16/14 at 7:33 am to slayerxing
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But only the format where we never kick field goals and score 70 million touchdowns, like any decent Florida team should...
Like the ole ball coach used to do when he never lost by fgs... oh wait....
Would you like more straw for that dragon that you're constructing to slay?
I never said field goals weren't important -- I said that we should have a competent offense in which we don't have to rely on them. That means week in and week out -- hope we hit a field goal so we win.
That ain't gonna cut it. We need to figure out how to produce touchdowns and use field goals as a secondary measure. Teams are getting so creative that they're going to score on you, shutouts just don't happen anymore and the 'ground and pound' offenses are dead.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 10:46 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Shutouts might not happen, but it isn't out of the ordinary to play great defense, and limit teams to a low number of points. Thus, leading to games where if your offense isn't great, you must rely on FG's. I don't want to "rely" on FG's as a UF fan, but I do like to see them win games. There's a number of games last year, where UF does win the game with all the crappy injuries if they had a kicker worth 2 shits.
I agree, the offense needs to be more competent, and execute at a much better rate. The offensive production at UF has been a joke the past few years. However, UF needs a kicker as well, just like every team (use Alabama for example, kicking has boned them in some big games).
I agree, the offense needs to be more competent, and execute at a much better rate. The offensive production at UF has been a joke the past few years. However, UF needs a kicker as well, just like every team (use Alabama for example, kicking has boned them in some big games).
Posted on 5/16/14 at 2:36 pm to gatordmb89
Yep, the Sturgis loss from 12 really was big. Hope the kicking game gets better for 2014.
This, but also stay healthy.
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the offense needs to be more competent, and execute at a much better rate. The offensive production at UF has been a joke the past few years. However, UF needs a kicker as well, just like every team
This, but also stay healthy.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 3:15 pm to gatordmb89
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Shutouts might not happen, but it isn't out of the ordinary to play great defense, and limit teams to a low number of points. Thus, leading to games where if your offense isn't great, you must rely on FG's. I don't want to "rely" on FG's as a UF fan, but I do like to see them win games. There's a number of games last year, where UF does win the game with all the crappy injuries if they had a kicker worth 2 shits.
And I don't mind if they win a few tight, big games -- I just don't want that to be a recurring theme. That scenario should happen few and far between.
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However, UF needs a kicker as well, just like every team (use Alabama for example, kicking has boned them in some big games).
If you look at the teams that beat them it only bolsters my argument.
Texas A&M first time: Lost by 5.
Second: Won by 7. (No field goals kicked.)
Auburn game: Field goal kick returned...
LSU 2012: Lost by 3.
Second: 21 - 0.
Field goals are all groovy, but what screwed them in the big games is not being able to execute. Field goals, especially against teams like Oklahoma, Auburn, Missouri now, Oregon and Texas A&M just aren't going to cut it.
I'll take a good field goal kicker, but I'd much rather have a competent offense. Much, much rather have that than a good kicker in the SEC going forward.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 3:59 pm to gatordmb89
I don't even remember what a competent offense looks like. If Florida fields one this year I may pass out from the shock.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 4:03 pm to slayerxing
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I don't even remember what a competent offense looks like. If Florida fields one this year I may pass out from the shock.
You and me both.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 10:44 pm to gatordmb89
Straw would have loved the late 1950s and early 60s when SEC teams punted on their third down a lot if they weren't pass their 50 yd line or quick kicked...qbs who could punt were valued.
Spurrier punted a lot more than most realize. He shared the punting with Hal Seymour who punted barefoot back in those days and was quite good.
A dozen or more passes thrown in a game was considered fairly wide open.
Special teams wins a lot of games or loses them. It is very important to play field position and a good punter who can back up your opponent is worth a lot. Starting field position for series tells a lot. You average starting from your 25 yd line and the other team starts out averaging at their own 45 yd line can spell doom if both teams are almost equal and sometimes even when they are not.
Spurrier punted a lot more than most realize. He shared the punting with Hal Seymour who punted barefoot back in those days and was quite good.
A dozen or more passes thrown in a game was considered fairly wide open.
Special teams wins a lot of games or loses them. It is very important to play field position and a good punter who can back up your opponent is worth a lot. Starting field position for series tells a lot. You average starting from your 25 yd line and the other team starts out averaging at their own 45 yd line can spell doom if both teams are almost equal and sometimes even when they are not.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 11:43 pm to reel_gator8
Listen... I hope Muschamp right's this ships, but when next season goes as bad as I fear it will I'll try not to say I told you so.
Posted on 5/17/14 at 10:33 am to GatorsGonnaGata
Because it is so difficult to think UF could have another bad year.
Posted on 5/17/14 at 3:08 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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We had a better team than Georgia this year, and for damn sure last year and let them beat us. Literally, let them
eeehhhh that might be a bit of a stretch. Both of us had injuries out the arse there's no doubt about that. But I wouldn't say UF was better than us in 2013. I also wouldn't say you "let" us beat you. I mean our first 2 TDs were just gurley being gurley. The only reason you were even in it in the 2nd half is because of the textbook definition of "letting you" get back in with the lynch drop/fumble and UF return. That play, btw, was one that Bobo called for the first time in his career and lynch had a WIDE open field with blocking in front of him. If anything, we let UF stay in the game.
Posted on 5/18/14 at 7:42 am to WG_Dawg
Georgia, fully healthy, was one of the better teams in the country last year.
What could have been...
Florida, regardless, was no better than an 8 win team last year, fully healthy.
What could have been...
Florida, regardless, was no better than an 8 win team last year, fully healthy.
Posted on 5/18/14 at 2:05 pm to WG_Dawg
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eeehhhh that might be a bit of a stretch. Both of us had injuries out the arse there's no doubt about that. But I wouldn't say UF was better than us in 2013. I also wouldn't say you "let" us beat you. I mean our first 2 TDs were just gurley being gurley. The only reason you were even in it in the 2nd half is because of the textbook definition of "letting you" get back in with the lynch drop/fumble and UF return. That play, btw, was one that Bobo called for the first time in his career and lynch had a WIDE open field with blocking in front of him. If anything, we let UF stay in the game.
Not even close to a stretch. If we hadn't been running a 1960's offense the game would have gotten ugly in our favor -- similarly to the year before where 6 turnovers couldn't even get you more than a single possession over us.
UF had better personnel -- just the entirely wrong playbook.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 12:03 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
We gave UGA hard time in 2011 in Booms first year and just couldn't sustain running game with two small scatbacks. 2014 will be our year to start a win streak.
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