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How do I tell my Boss she doesn't know what she is doing?

Posted on 3/13/14 at 3:20 am
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36487 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 3:20 am
She's a REALLY sweet lady, and does have a lot on her plate... but she can't make a schedule for her employees that is correct, is using an ancient time card system that she can't add up our hours correctly with, and is constantly losing money by paying some employees overtime, while others aren't getting the hours they want or need...

I really want to help her with this so that it saves her money, helps the business, and might open a path to me getting some extra hours or a raise.

But I don't wanna offend her, piss her off, or piss off the employees that are set in their ways with the overtime and hours they are getting.
This post was edited on 3/13/14 at 3:23 am
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36487 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 3:28 am to
I'm thinking about actually taking her out to a business lunch that I pay for... so that at least she knows I'm trying to do the best for her...

I've had her try to pay me almost 1 and 1/2 times what I deserved on a pay check to shorting me about the same amount... I've been honest every time, and she now respects me for it. But this has got to stop.

I don't wanna waste my time or hers making sure I'm getting paid the right amount for the hours I worked...

Also, she can't make a schedule for shite... I don't know why... maybe it's cause she is trying to appease everyone, maybe it's cause she's got so much else to deal with... but we have 2 stores, and when i have to ask... So who is closing this store tonight? (cause no one is scheduled to) or did we decide to keep store 2 open an hour later now? (cause it usually closes at 6, but she has me closing it at 7 on the schedule).... then there is an issue... and she needs help.
This post was edited on 3/13/14 at 3:42 am
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36487 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 3:47 am to
And yes.... it is possible my boss is just an idiot... but she also is super nice, appreciates her employees, realizes she doesn't know everything, and tries to listen and hire people that can help her... and to me that is very smart of a boss or manager.

She'd probably take what I'm saying her pretty well, it's just hard to tell your boss they need your help... it's much easier if they just ask.
Posted by bird35
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
12734 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 6:04 am to
Make a sample schedule and show it to her. Tell her you would be willing to do this every week.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
123768 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 6:19 am to
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but she also is super nice, appreciates her employees, realizes she doesn't know everything, and tries to listen and hire people that can help her.


Then figure out a way to help without criticizing. Perhaps as mentioned, show her an alternative way to do tasks you think can be done better, but be sure it's in a constructive way. Best of luck.
Posted by SLC
Hiwasse, AR
Member since Oct 2007
15522 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 6:59 am to
quote:

Make a sample schedule and show it to her. Tell her you would be willing to do this every week.


Managing up is tough and you have to understand your boss's personality and motivations. This suggestion is pretty good because you would be offering a solution instead of just pointing out problems.
Posted by Slippery Slope
Hail Satan
Member since Nov 2010
20346 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 7:18 am to
lol you have a boss.
Posted by diddydirtyAubie
Bozeman
Member since Dec 2010
39829 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 8:01 am to
Who hired her for the position? What happened to your personal business?
Posted by Pavoloco83
Acworth Ga. too many damn dawgs
Member since Nov 2013
15347 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 8:15 am to
Well, you could start the conversation with "I quit and here's why"...

Takes the pressure off for sure. Candid discussion. either she takes you back and asks you to help her, or at least she knows the problem and you had a candid exit interview!

Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 8:17 am to
quote:

but she also is super nice, appreciates her employees, realizes she doesn't know everything, and tries to listen and hire people that can help her... and to me that is very smart of a boss or manager


Seems like it'd be an easy conversation then. It's possible she's the type that doesn't know how to ask for help.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
106297 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 8:41 am to
Tell her you want more responsibility and would like to take the following tasks to help lighten her load. Tell her if she likes what you have done for her in a month that she offer a raise to compensate you for your work.
Posted by mwlewis
JeffCo
Member since Nov 2010
21395 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 8:46 am to
Best way would just be straight up with her and tell her you want to help and this would be how you would do it. People appreciate constructive criticism if they arent too hard headed.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 9:13 am to
step 1 get a box
step 2 cut a hole in the box
step 3 place a schedule on the bottom of the box
step 4 insert your dick in the hole
step 5 present her the box
step 6 when she freaks out just pull your dick out so the schedule is visible.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67773 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 9:18 am to
quote:

Make a sample schedule and show it to her. Tell her you would be willing to do this every week

This is a perfect start and she'll probably ask you if you know other ways to improve things.
Posted by Stonehog
Platinum Rewards Club
Member since Aug 2011
33565 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 9:56 am to
I would just find a job at a different restaurant.
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36487 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 1:28 pm to
quote:

Who hired her for the position? What happened to your personal business?


She inherited it, and I still do that too.
Posted by Arkla Missy
Ark-La-Miss
Member since Jan 2013
10288 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 1:55 pm to
quote:

She inherited it ...

Those are always the worst. At least you're lucky that she's sweet. Usually "junior" doesn't know shite about the business, AND is an arse.
Posted by Hardy_Har
MS
Member since Nov 2012
16292 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 2:01 pm to
Do you think she's ginuinely nice and appreciative or has to be due to ineptness?

You can't be both is what i'm saying..
Posted by Jma313
Member since Aug 2010
5198 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 3:57 pm to
Keep doing your job and her boss will probably fire her
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
Member since Dec 2007
37538 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 7:50 pm to
Don't you work at a liqour store?
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