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re: Volkswagen employees vote down UAW unionization bid in Chattanooga

Posted on 2/15/14 at 10:37 am to
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 2/15/14 at 10:37 am to
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Seems like a good reason


Seems dumb to me to put your personal interests second to what a certain group politically believes, but that's just me. I'm not crazy about the UAW, but rest assured if I was an hourly worker in an auto factory I'd want to be unionized.
Posted by diddydirtyAubie
Bozeman
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 2/15/14 at 10:38 am to
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but rest assured if I was an hourly worker in an auto factory I'd want to be unionized.



why?
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 2/15/14 at 10:40 am to
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Seems dumb to me to put your personal interests second to what a certain group politically believes, but that's just me.


It is far more than a belief. Labor Unions make up 6 of the top 10 biggest political donors in the country. All of which go to democrats. If I didn't agree with them politically why would I want them spending my money to support those idiots.

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rest assured if I was an hourly worker in an auto factory I'd want to be unionized.


30 years ago, sure. Now there is no point to them.
This post was edited on 2/15/14 at 10:41 am
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
14212 posts
Posted on 2/15/14 at 10:42 am to
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rest assured if I was an hourly worker in an auto factory I'd want to be unionized.


So that your union could drive your job back overseas? Makes sense.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62984 posts
Posted on 2/15/14 at 10:43 am to
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but rest assured if I was an hourly worker in an auto factory I'd want to be unionized.

or have my plant shut down and relocated to Mexico.
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
20728 posts
Posted on 2/15/14 at 8:43 pm to
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I'm not crazy about the UAW, but rest assured if I was an hourly worker in an auto factory I'd want to be unionized.


Speaking as someone who married the daughter of a militant 40-year UAW worker, I can assure you there is no benefit, except for using union meetings as an excuse to get shitfaced at the union hall.

Unions reward seniority, rather than skill or merit. The leadership is corrupt, and lacks the bargaining power they promise you. They may negotiate a higher wage, but any increase is more than lost during the aggregated years you spend on strike while your family is forced to eat ketchup and white bread as meals.

And, at least in my father-in-law's case, the union was thrilled that they negotiated a pension that was 100% funded by the company without any contribution by the employer. What they didn't proudly announce was that if the employee dies, there is no benefit for the spouse or other dependents. The pension simply disappears. Care to explain to me how this is better than a 401k?

American labor unions deserve to die.
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