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Peyton vs. Eli "in the clutch"
Posted on 2/3/14 at 10:10 am
Posted on 2/3/14 at 10:10 am
Amazing how Eli seems to rise to the occasion in pressure situations when all the marbles are on the table.....whereas Peyton does just the opposite, as we saw again yesterday.....even though they grew up in the same household with the same parents.....and went to the same high school and played for the same coach
Hard to explain.
And I don't see how anybody cannot see a pattern with Peyton at this point--he could not beat Florida in college to save his life and the year after he left, an inferior quarterback took UT to a national championship....and now he cannot win a Super Bowl to save his life.
Hard to explain.
And I don't see how anybody cannot see a pattern with Peyton at this point--he could not beat Florida in college to save his life and the year after he left, an inferior quarterback took UT to a national championship....and now he cannot win a Super Bowl to save his life.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 10:13 am to Rebellious
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.....even though they grew up in the same household with the same parents.....and went to the same high school and played for the same coach
What does any of that have to do with how they perform while playing football?
Posted on 2/3/14 at 10:14 am to Rebellious
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he cannot win a Super Bowl to save his life.
Er...you do know he did win one, right? Won the MVP and all that?
Posted on 2/3/14 at 10:15 am to Rebellious
My oversimplified view: Peyton is too smart for his own good. It's too cerebral, not enough emotional. You can't be purely X's and O's. You gotta have some fire, some grit. It's intangible, but Peyton is lacking. Eli, Brady, Brees, Rodgers, etc are not.
This post was edited on 2/3/14 at 10:18 am
Posted on 2/3/14 at 10:17 am to genro
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Peyton is too smart for his own good.
My thoughts as well. He's like the student that way over prepares for a test.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 10:18 am to genro
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My oversimplified view: Peyton is too smart for his own good. It's too cerebral, not enough emotional. You can't be purely X's and O's. You gotta have some fire, some grit. It's intangible, but Peyton is lacking. Eli, Brady, Bees, Rodgers, etc are not.
Bingo
Posted on 2/3/14 at 10:18 am to genro
I think what was lacking was Offensive line pass blocking
Posted on 2/3/14 at 10:19 am to WG_Dawg
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What does any of that have to do with how they perform while playing football?
Very similar to the epidemic LSU fan/ Saban obsession, the Ole Miss "we're still mad Peyton went to Tennessee so Eli is better" sickness runs very deep in a few Ole Miss homers..
Posted on 2/3/14 at 10:20 am to Hardy_Har
You're god damn right it does
Posted on 2/3/14 at 10:22 am to genro
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My oversimplified view: Peyton is too smart for his own good. It's too cerebral, not enough emotional. You can't be purely X's and O's. You gotta have some fire, some grit. It's intangible, but Peyton is lacking. Eli, Brady, Bees, Rodgers, etc are not
That's actually an interesting point. Peyton is like an emotion-less machine. A computer.
That said, Eli has never really been a rah-rah guy, either. Both are kind of restrained emotionally....which I attribute to their upbringing (to answer the question posed by the Dawg above)....although Eli is less so. Maybe comes from the fact that Eli has always been closer to his mother, whereas Peyton has always been closer to his dad.
Hard to say.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 10:22 am to genro
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My oversimplified view: Peyton is too smart for his own good. It's too cerebral, not enough emotional. You can't be purely X's and O's. You gotta have some fire, some grit. It's intangible, but Peyton is lacking. Eli, Brady, Brees, Rodgers, etc are not
I don't know...I can't say I fully agree with that. When Peyton was obliterating record books this season nobody said "I don't know how he's doing this, he's being way too cerebral". He had a bad game so people want to find some odd excuses. Fact of the matter is that in addition to his OL, defense, and ST all sucking, he just had a poor game. Happens to everyone.
There is nothing wrong with peyson's fire or his Xs and Os smarts.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 10:23 am to Rebellious
I guess one could argue that they are all pressure situations since you have to win the games to get to the show. Eli hasn't done that lately.
Peyton didn't play well, obviously. To me, that is an indicator of how good he is...slow down Peyton and win the game. It's something so simple that very few teams did this year. The Seahawks did just that, credit to them. Even in a game where he "choked", he still set a Super Bowl record as insignificant as it was. Not too shabby.
Maybe he's a choke artist, maybe not. Those Florida teams were simply better/more talented teams. So were a lot of teams that beat them when he was a Colt.
Peyton didn't play well, obviously. To me, that is an indicator of how good he is...slow down Peyton and win the game. It's something so simple that very few teams did this year. The Seahawks did just that, credit to them. Even in a game where he "choked", he still set a Super Bowl record as insignificant as it was. Not too shabby.
Maybe he's a choke artist, maybe not. Those Florida teams were simply better/more talented teams. So were a lot of teams that beat them when he was a Colt.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 10:23 am to Hardy_Har
Eli seems like a better person, peyton not so much, so karma.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 10:24 am to Rebellious
I think Seattle converted every 3rd down. It was like automatic conversion. Did they even punt once?
Denver D, OL, special team, receiver(fumble) didnt really help out either. Denver vomitted all over the field from start (safety) to finish.
Denver D, OL, special team, receiver(fumble) didnt really help out either. Denver vomitted all over the field from start (safety) to finish.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 10:25 am to Rebellious
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Peyton is like an emotion-less machine. A computer.
Only if a computer could get grumpy and yell at you if it feels you missed an assignment.
Peyton is plenty emotional enough, it's just not the kind of motivational emotion that a lot of QBs who are leaders have.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 10:26 am to Rebellious
This may be true but Eli would have been embarrassed almost as bad yesterday. To have a chance against Seattle you must have a mobile qb, end of story.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 10:26 am to WG_Dawg
quote:happens to him more than anyone else ever. His discrepancy between regular season performance and postseason performance is the biggest in sports history. He is the biggest choke artist in sports history, and that's quantifiable fact, not opinion.
he just had a poor game. Happens to everyone
When it happens over and over again all throughout his career, it's not a coincidence.
Peyton is the greatest technical quarterback of all time. But when the pressure mounts in the postseason, he usually crumbles. That's the way it is.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 10:26 am to Rebellious
SEC Championships
Peyton 1, Eli 0
Peyton 1, Eli 0
Posted on 2/3/14 at 10:27 am to Rebellious
It kinda stinks to compare bros, when their stats are night / day but the hero shits himself in the big game.. Dunno. Maybe Seattle's D is just that good?
Maybe the Peyton vs Brady AFC dominance made it hard to envision a SuperBowl loss?
Did big head get the big head? I think so.. He and the whole fricking squad and they made me look like a bafoon in the process.
Maybe the Peyton vs Brady AFC dominance made it hard to envision a SuperBowl loss?
Did big head get the big head? I think so.. He and the whole fricking squad and they made me look like a bafoon in the process.
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