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re: 2015 Auburn Football Recruiting Thread

Posted on 8/20/14 at 11:33 am to
Posted by Spiggly
Texas
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Posted on 8/20/14 at 11:33 am to
@TDsTake: 5-star LSU DB commit Kevin Toliver to use official visits at Ohio State, Auburn, VT, LSU and UCLA, per @bartonsimmons https://t.co/MjGS166vJ5

ETA: Visiting for Arky LINK
This post was edited on 8/20/14 at 2:31 pm
Posted by Spiggly
Texas
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 8/20/14 at 11:34 am to
@HamiltonESPN: #Clemson & #UGA battling (Georgia closed gap) for #ESPN300 DE Albert Huggins. #FSU #Florida & #Auburn likely official visits. #SceneandHeard
Posted by ellitor
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 8/20/14 at 2:36 pm to
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@TDsTake: 5-star LSU DB commit Kevin Toliver to use official visits at Ohio State, Auburn, VT, LSU and UCLA, per @bartonsimmons LINK

ETA: Visiting for Arky LINK
Likely means the entire Jax clan will be there. On a related note Kendrick Norton is a take for AU at DT per AUC.
Posted by AUtigR24
Happy Hour
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Posted on 8/20/14 at 3:27 pm to
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On a related note Kendrick Norton is a take for AU at DT per AUC.


I would hope so after missing on errbody else at DT plus isn't he teamates with Ben Edwards and Jeff Holland? Obvious take is obvious
Posted by ellitor
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 8/20/14 at 4:10 pm to
Being teammates with Edwards and Holland does not make that obvious. There has been no indication of a package deal with the Jax boys and AU is satisfied at Safety so I don't think the staff is concerned much with Edwards.
Posted by AUtigR24
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Posted on 8/20/14 at 9:25 pm to
Good point E. I'm just being selfish and wanting the staff to go hard after Edwards

Per KN's interview with Kendrick Norton Miami and UF are standing out the most to him right now but he does want to try and make an AU game this fall.
Posted by ever43
Raleigh, NC
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 8/21/14 at 1:29 am to
I've been out of the loop for about a month due to a newborn and work. Is our DL class still in ruins?
Posted by ellitor
Member since Sep 2012
14285 posts
Posted on 8/21/14 at 7:12 am to
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I've been out of the loop for about a month due to a newborn and work. Is our DL class still in ruins?
despite popular opinion on this board that can not even be assessed til NSD when all the players are signed.

I probably have a different view than most but I don't think we need the high ranked players on the DL in this class that most on this board want and many teams need. Sure I want them but they are not needs. This is because Garner plays more DL than anybody in the nation on a per game basis to get the most production out of each player's snaps. Theerefore Garner just needs to sign 4 or 5 guys this year that he feels is quality and give 10-15 good snaps a game regardless of player ranking. Garner is behind in the relationship department with the top DL recruits for the 2015 class because relationships with the big timers are a 2 year process at minimum and Garner spent most of his time and energy last year fixing the then problem of coaching the horrible habits out of the DL on the team because he felt fixing the current player problems was more important than recruiting. He will be caught up with the 2016 DL guys in the relationship department though.
This post was edited on 8/21/14 at 9:04 am
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 8/21/14 at 8:32 am to
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Is our DL class still in ruins?



Yes. And if you bring it up these people will call you a troll and then list the last recruiting class like it has bearing on this class.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 8/21/14 at 8:40 am to
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then list the last recruiting class like it has bearing on this class.



Everyone knows coaches don't recruit based on prior recruiting classes. That would be so silly of them.
Posted by CharlieTiger
ATL
Member since Jun 2014
748 posts
Posted on 8/21/14 at 8:54 am to
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Is our DL class still in ruins?


Yes. If we don't sign 5 7* guys, we're just gonna shut down the program.
Posted by ellitor
Member since Sep 2012
14285 posts
Posted on 8/21/14 at 9:01 am to
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list the last recruiting class like it has bearing on this class.
It depends how you mean that. If you're saying that just because a team signed a good class at a position the previous year it does not mean you'll get a good class in the current year then you're correct. However, a prior class can (not necessarily will) have an impact on the current class if the previous class gets quality PT as a freshmen and gets noticed for it.
This post was edited on 8/21/14 at 9:05 am
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37706 posts
Posted on 8/21/14 at 11:05 am to
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Yes. And if you bring it up these people will call you a troll and then list the last recruiting class like it has bearing on this class.


Brani, normally when you troll it at least is better than this. Here are some previous posts of yours about this topic indicating that you bring in previous classes. Yes Garner has sucked in this class but your criticisms have been of previous classes of which he has done a good job

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Why is Garner sucking at recruiting for us? Was he not supposed be an elite recruiter? Rocker is kicking his arse.



quote:


I was not beginning that specific. Garner is not recruiting to an elite level. One good sleeper prospect is not elite recruiting.




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Has nothing to do with this current recruiting class.



This post was edited on 8/21/14 at 11:07 am
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 8/21/14 at 11:07 am to
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Garner is behind in the relationship department with the top DL recruits for the 2015 class because relationships with the big timers are a 2 year process at minimum and Garner spent most of his time and energy last year fixing the then now problem of coaching the horrible habits out of the DL on the team because he felt fixing the current player problems was more important than recruiting



I'm sorry this is a bs excuse. It's not like garner is new to the sec and these recruits. This is simply moving the goalpost because it was only one year needed to build relationship when Rocker first got here.


Posted by ellitor
Member since Sep 2012
14285 posts
Posted on 8/21/14 at 11:32 am to
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I'm sorry this is a bs excuse. It's not like garner is new to the sec and these recruits. This is simply moving the goalpost because it was only one year needed to build relationship when Rocker first got here.
It's not BS. It's reality whether you want to believe it or not. He was in fact new to a lot of the recruits he has to bring in for AU's 4 man front as opposed to UGA's 3 man front. For the most part you recruit different kinds of DL for a 4 man base front to a 3 man base which is what Garner was under at UGA. The only DL that translates to both styles is the nose guard in the 3 man front to a 0 technique DT in a 4 man front. While at UGA Garner was likely not establishing relationships with guys that would be DEs and the 3 technie DT in a 4 man front D. An example of a top AU DL target in this class that was not a DL target at UGA is D'Andre Walker. He's is a smaller guy out of HS that draws comparison's to Dee Ford out of HS. AU wants DW at DE while if UGA was recruiting him when Garner was there it would have been LB and Garner likely was not the recruiter. As it is now UGA is recruiting him as a hybrid LB/DE but my bet is Pruitt is just tell him that to try to land DW as he wants to play DE not LB.
Posted by McKeezy
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Aug 2010
3940 posts
Posted on 8/21/14 at 11:49 am to
This thread is for recruiting, not being bitches.
Posted by ellitor
Member since Sep 2012
14285 posts
Posted on 8/21/14 at 11:53 am to
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This thread is for recruiting, not being bitches.
I don't see anyone being bitches. Looks like a civil recruiting discussion with differences of opinion to me.
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
3599 posts
Posted on 8/21/14 at 11:56 am to
Wait til he gets those relationships doe.

I think its a weak excuse too. After last year's success, we should not be this far back on top prospects from this region. To be honest, the fact that we somehow haven't landed Walker yet is borderline absurd. He looks like a clone of Ford from HS...how hard is it to sell what we did with him last year?
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
34884 posts
Posted on 8/21/14 at 12:06 pm to
Prospects also probably want to see what we will do this year on D. It really isn't all that hard to understand.

We are still way ahead of where we have really ever been with regards to recruiting.
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
3599 posts
Posted on 8/21/14 at 12:14 pm to
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Prospects also probably want to see what we will do this year on D. It really isn't all that hard to understand.


...but they dont want to see what other schools do this year? UGA has a brand new defense, new DL coach...but I guess Rocker must have been building relationships with all these kids while he was with the Tennessee Titans, amirite?

I know how recruiting works. DL recruiting has been a disappointment to date. Who knows what it will look like on NSD, but I'm not going to sit here and lap up every excuse like Ellitor has become a master of doing.
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