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Posted on 11/3/13 at 4:21 am
Posted by reel_gator8
Seminole,Fl
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 11/3/13 at 4:21 am
Everyone is complaining about the play of 2013 team and believe me...it is painful to watch. Its time to look at the gametape of the WLOCP and see where I think some of our shortcomings were.

1) not our fault...but putting Gurley on the field was HUGE for UGA and I'll explain why. No...its not his tackle breaking runs...which is enough on its own...but its his presense on the field which tilted everything in the dawgs favor...why you ask? Simple. We could not pass rush UGA because of the threat of # 3 busting runs against us. UGA was smart and used our aggression against us during their first series and later in first half...Fowler kept crashing inside to stop Gurley and it left Murray, a not so fleeted qb, enough room on the left side to run and sign autographs.
When Gurley was out...we were much better at pressuring Murray.

2) our blitz package early on was a mistake..we tried sending LBs Taylor and Morrison at times to pressure Murray...they would hit the gaps and leave the middle of the field WIDE open and every qb loves a clean sight downfield and he connected with TEs over and over. I was screaming to my stepson that we need to send corner/safety blitzs and of course we did get safety out of that later on. If you noticed...Murray was less successful in second half when we dropped LBs back and helped our secondary.

3)Offense...so much to look at. I will relay this though: watch the USC-Mizzou game and you will see how to attack an aggressive defense on third and longs (which was was way way too often). Spurrier used the "jailhouse break" type of screen play to beat Mizzou. It was used over and over on long yardage....a play where their rb (Davis)fakes block...OL releases and forms a wall to spring him loose...Davis actually catches the ball near the line or behind it in the MIDDLE of the field...but broke several 15-25 yd plays out of it. We do NOT use a rb screen and its puzzling.

4) Memo to Pease: Murphy is limited in abilities and he is NOT an option qb and does not know how/when/where to pitch the ball....mostly pitching out way way too early. Faking the pitch might work? ...that way the DE will go for the rb and Murphy might get a few yds? ANYTHING is better than what we are seeing.

5) I was glad to see Moore come out after a false start...whether he was injured (hope not)or coaches had enough (hope so)...Silberman was inserted and we did function slightly better. Halapio is a seasoned veteran and to see him have his lunch money take away is crazy. Trenton is a huge dude and will get better...he is raw right now. Max Garcia and Jon Harrison are our two best OL right now and I don't recall seeing Koehne out there and he is probably one of the walking wounded.

Could go on and on...but there is plenty of blame sandwich for our horrible first half. I know one thing...Muschamp's practices must be too intense when we have had so many injuries during the weekdays...lets ease up a bit so we can have some players available to play on Saturday?
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52943 posts
Posted on 11/3/13 at 6:48 am to
Regarding:

1) Muschamp and Durkin don't like to blitz anyway. They rely on the DL to rush the passer with just 4. The fact is that since Easley was injured, our DLine has played very badly, which has hurt the LBs and DBacks.

2) Morrison is terrible in pass coverage. Should've let him blitzed and kept Taylor on Gurley on the 2nd TD.

3)Partially because every time we run a screen, the OLine either messes it up, or Murphy has the ball batted down.

4) Murphy fake pitched once, and it didn't work out. But I agree with you. Just get rid of that completely. That includes the Trey Burton read option play too. It always produces negative yards.

5) Our OLine has been bad since the Pounceys left. Harrison is good, but the rest are struggling.
Posted by gatordmb89
Member since Dec 2009
30506 posts
Posted on 11/3/13 at 9:04 am to
Start with the OC. Pease is awful and has no situational awareness. He also kills drives and has a hard time getting the QB and offense in rhythm, which is very important for any successful offense.
Posted by BasedGator
Member since Sep 2012
391 posts
Posted on 11/3/13 at 12:33 pm to
My biggest issue with Pease is development. Despite the poor play calling, if our players actually executed, our offense would be a lot better. Too bad he just sucks at everything. He might be worse than Addazio.
Posted by reel_gator8
Seminole,Fl
Member since May 2012
11060 posts
Posted on 11/3/13 at 3:09 pm to
You gotta have horses in the SEC rodeo. I have a list and will spare you folks who is on thie list of players who aren't playing or hardly playing. 23 players are on this list and all have schollys as far as I know. And that doesn't include a few tr frosh who are redshirting ,,,but its only a few player due to urgent need.

You cant go to the waiver wire or look on Craigs List to find replacements. OL are the hgardest to replace and most take time to develop.

My uneducated guess is that we are now playing with about 65 players including a few true frosh.

I will provide a list of scholly OL for your review:

Tommy Jordan/Trip Thurman/Koehne/Chaz Green/Jesseman Bunker to name most. I think Meyer recruited all of these...but not sure about Thurman/Jordan. And Dunker was Boom?

Meyer and co recruited a different style OL abd coaches are having to revamp.
Posted by reel_gator8
Seminole,Fl
Member since May 2012
11060 posts
Posted on 11/3/13 at 3:12 pm to
BTW I do know that Jordan had medical I believe?

We need five/sixth OL recruits signed.
Posted by LuciusSulla
Oxford, MS
Member since Nov 2010
2729 posts
Posted on 11/4/13 at 12:11 am to
Reel, I just appreciate your level-headed attitude. Obviously, this season is a dumpster fire and some things need to change somewhere. I am not even going to start to claim I know what they should be. I do like reading your posts though as they seem to be both critical and optimistic without being personal or unrealistic.
Posted by BloodSweat&Beers
One Particular Harbor, Fl
Member since Jan 2012
9153 posts
Posted on 11/4/13 at 8:15 am to
1. Bourbon, as UF fans we need more of it.

2. It is clear that both Lines are getting beat and UF has a style of play on both sides of the ball that rely on winning up front. If the defensive and offensive lines do not play better I expect similar results in the outcome of games.
Posted by austingator
austin
Member since Jan 2009
7442 posts
Posted on 11/4/13 at 8:55 am to
quote:

Our OLine has been bad since the Pounceys left


You mean since Maurkice left. Mike at center produced a cluster fk or bad snaps if you remember. It was terrible.
Posted by austingator
austin
Member since Jan 2009
7442 posts
Posted on 11/4/13 at 8:55 am to
BTW Halapio has a partially torn Pectoralis muscle. He is doing much better than I expected, I cannot blame him for the substandard play.
Posted by gatordmb89
Member since Dec 2009
30506 posts
Posted on 11/4/13 at 9:37 am to
I don't think Halapio has ever been that good.
Posted by SpartyGator
Detroit Lions fan
Member since Oct 2011
77223 posts
Posted on 11/4/13 at 10:49 am to
quote:

1. Any form of alcohol, as UF fans we need more of it.


Fify

Posted by reel_gator8
Seminole,Fl
Member since May 2012
11060 posts
Posted on 11/4/13 at 12:12 pm to
quote:

It is clear that both Lines are getting beat and UF has a style of play on both sides of the ball that rely on winning up front. If the defensive and offensive lines do not play better I expect similar results in the outcome of games.


All SEC teams are basically trying to dominate the line of scrimmage with a few variations...Meyer worn down teams with speed...but we were a finesse team...hence why it was so damn hard to recruit great power rbs.
The spread is all about its namesake...spread the field and the defense. I don't care for it that much. Too many spread offenses are toast when they are inside the 10 ten yd line trying to score. With Tebow we did have the ability to punch the ball in and get the tough 1-2 yds on 3rd or 4th down.
Posted by gatordmb89
Member since Dec 2009
30506 posts
Posted on 11/4/13 at 12:15 pm to
UF's OL actually performed pretty well on Saturday. I was completely shocked.
Posted by austingator
austin
Member since Jan 2009
7442 posts
Posted on 11/4/13 at 5:42 pm to
Well, GAg's D isn't as good as LSU or MO.
It won't be pretty against SC.
Posted by gatorsimz
cafe risque
Member since Feb 2009
8156 posts
Posted on 11/4/13 at 6:04 pm to
quote:

I don't think Halapio has ever been that good.


+1

Posted by reel_gator8
Seminole,Fl
Member since May 2012
11060 posts
Posted on 11/4/13 at 6:30 pm to
quote:

Solutions

UF's OL actually performed pretty well on Saturday. I was completely shocked.


Overall I agree and the stats show it...we did gain a lot of passing/rushing yds compared to some of other adventures...Halapio missed an assignment and the result was a sack...Trenton also missed a block and these infractions are drive killers. We had WAY too many third and longs and Murphy just isn't a skilled drop back passer.

If anyone watches replay of the game there was an adjustment on offense which helped a lot. Murphy has been too quick to roll out left or right during a passing down and the results aren't pretty. I was screaming for Murphy to stay in the pocket (not that my screams did any good...lol)and in the second half he did just that the improved as a passer. He had tendency to bail the pocket when there is adequate protection....and trying to roll out and throw is much harder than dropping back.
Especially in the first half Murphy had passes that hit wrs feet and that is a sign of nerves.
Posted by The Nino
Member since Jan 2010
21581 posts
Posted on 11/5/13 at 1:41 am to
quote:

Muschamp's practices must be too intense when we have had so many injuries during the weekdays...lets ease up a bit so we can have some players available to play on Saturday?
We tried the limited contact practices in 2011 and 2012...I don't recommend them
Posted by reel_gator8
Seminole,Fl
Member since May 2012
11060 posts
Posted on 11/5/13 at 6:55 am to
I think we are playing with very low numbers right now as far as schollys. Any practice injuries to DL or OL would be really bad.

As bad as things are now...one has to remember that we could easily be 8-1 or 9-0 at this time next year....don't laugh.
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52943 posts
Posted on 11/5/13 at 7:31 am to
quote:

one has to remember that we could easily be 8-1 or 9-0 at this time next year


Next year is gonna be tough man...

@ Alabama
vs. LSU
vs. Missouri
vs. South Carolina
UGA
@ FSU
@ Vandy

Thats tough.
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