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re: Do you think the Auburn Head Coaching Job is Top 10?
Posted on 10/24/13 at 2:38 pm to WDE24
Posted on 10/24/13 at 2:38 pm to WDE24
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the lack of a rich natural recruiting territory isn't the reason.
I didn't say territory. Obviously, they are bordering 2 states with very rich high school talent. I never once said they couldnt' drive 3 hours and find anyone they need. I was strictly talking about the state.
And if that isn't a reason, why would they not be top 10, IYO?
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Posted on 10/24/13 at 2:38 pm to WG_Dawg
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The problem with that graph is that it's going by a per capita percentage. That doesn't mean shite. Coaches don't recruit states based on the percentage of recruits of the total state population are good. They look at the overall frickin number.
No. It's not. The numbers at the bottom are per capita. The actual spreadsheet is simply gross production.
Posted on 10/24/13 at 2:38 pm to WDE24
Top 10 jobs in no particular order
Texas
Nebraska
USC
ND
Bama
OH St
Mich
Oklahoma
Tenn
FSU
Im right, everyone else is wrong...dwi!
Texas
Nebraska
USC
ND
Bama
OH St
Mich
Oklahoma
Tenn
FSU
Im right, everyone else is wrong...dwi!
Posted on 10/24/13 at 2:38 pm to KaiserSoze99
Dye left Wyoming for it
Tubbs left Ole Miss for it.
Petrino would have left Louisville
Chizik left Iowa State for it
Malzahn left Arkansas State for it
You don't see many coaches leaving Auburn to go to elsewhere so why not be a top10 school.
Tubbs left Ole Miss for it.
Petrino would have left Louisville
Chizik left Iowa State for it
Malzahn left Arkansas State for it
You don't see many coaches leaving Auburn to go to elsewhere so why not be a top10 school.
Posted on 10/24/13 at 2:38 pm to WG_Dawg
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Dear God yall are hung up on that phrase. Ok fine..I TAKE IT BACK! I MISSPOKE! Let me try again..
Well you used it as one of your talking points and would you say the phrase of"virtually no recruits" it a decisive statement?
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their instate recruiting ground is not as fertile as a handful of other states that contain coaching jobs that I would personally rank above Auburn
So four or five states states? in talking about a top 10 list
Posted on 10/24/13 at 2:38 pm to the808bass
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No. It's not. The numbers at the bottom are per capita
Yes I'm aware, we discussed that about 2 or 3 pages ago.
Posted on 10/24/13 at 2:40 pm to parkjas2001
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Nebraska
Good call. Forgot about them..
Posted on 10/24/13 at 2:42 pm to WG_Dawg
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And if that isn't a reason, why would they not be top 10, IYO?
Overzealous/hindering administration is the only negative I can put on AU's football program, and even that has gotten better from what I can tell.
This post was edited on 10/24/13 at 2:42 pm
Posted on 10/24/13 at 2:42 pm to stat19
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Dye left Wyoming for it
Tubbs left Ole Miss for it.
Petrino would have left Louisville
Chizik left Iowa State for it
Malzahn left Arkansas State for it
Does it not occur to you that Auburn is a better job than every other school on that list?
UGA hasn't had a coach leave for another school since the 30s, btw.
Posted on 10/24/13 at 2:42 pm to WG_Dawg
quote:Again, the state ranks very high, but that is irrelevant to the larger discussion of whether AU is a Top 10 coaching job. The only relevant factor would be the larger picture of whether or not they had a convenient and rich natural recruiting territory.
I was strictly talking about the state.
quote:Because there are other schools with similar arguments to be made for top 10 and AU is in the argument with those schools but not clear cut ahead of them.
why would they not be top 10, IYO?
Whether it be due to rich tradition, financial commitment, etc. AU is somewhere in a group of about 10-12 programs just below the elite jobs of places like UA, UT, OSU, and USC.
This post was edited on 10/24/13 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 10/24/13 at 2:43 pm to CidCock
Eugene, Oregon is a loooooooooooong way from SoCal. Still sucks for those coaches to recruit, even flying in Phil's jets.
For contrast, see: Texas. It *looks* big, but it really isn't. A box drawn from Houston, up 59 to Longview, over on 20 to DFW, down 35 to Austin and then SA, then back east to Houston on I-10 would contain or connect 80% of the state's population. East of 59 is a jungle, west of 35 is the desert, the panhandle is Kansas, and south of I-10 is scrub brush Mexicoland. All you have to recruit is that box, which is, eh, roughly the size of Louisiana.
For contrast, see: Texas. It *looks* big, but it really isn't. A box drawn from Houston, up 59 to Longview, over on 20 to DFW, down 35 to Austin and then SA, then back east to Houston on I-10 would contain or connect 80% of the state's population. East of 59 is a jungle, west of 35 is the desert, the panhandle is Kansas, and south of I-10 is scrub brush Mexicoland. All you have to recruit is that box, which is, eh, roughly the size of Louisiana.
Posted on 10/24/13 at 2:43 pm to NYCAuburn
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So four or five states states? in talking about a top 10 list
And once again, in state recruiting is but one of a handful of factors I would take into consideration if I were a head coach. Just because alabama may have better recruits than the state of Indiana doesn't make AU a better job than Notre Dame.
Posted on 10/24/13 at 2:43 pm to parkjas2001
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Tenn
Posted on 10/24/13 at 2:43 pm to NYCAuburn
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I'd say top 15
Posted on 10/24/13 at 2:43 pm to KaiserSoze99
Easily
Posted on 10/24/13 at 2:44 pm to WG_Dawg
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UGA hasn't had a coach leave for another school since the 30s, btw.
Wish I could say the same for LSU :/
Sits back and waits for the big fish
Posted on 10/24/13 at 2:44 pm to AUsteriskPride
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Overzealous/hindering administration is the only negative I can put on AU's football program,
There don't have to necessarily be negatives towards Auburn, just other schools having more positives.
Posted on 10/24/13 at 2:45 pm to KaiserSoze99
No, have you ever been to Auburn Alabama? It kinda sucks. Just a college town out in the middle of cow pastures.
I wouldn't put LSU up that high either. Replace the top 2 with Texas and USC.
I wouldn't put LSU up that high either. Replace the top 2 with Texas and USC.
Posted on 10/24/13 at 2:46 pm to Cooter Davenport
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A box drawn from Houston, up 59 to Longview, over on 20 to DFW, down 35 to Austin and then SA, then back east to Houston on I-10 would contain or connect 80% of the state's population.
and we about to put up a fence around it.
Posted on 10/24/13 at 2:49 pm to adawgj
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No, have you ever been to Auburn Alabama? It kinda sucks. Just a college town out in the middle of cow pastures.
And Brunswick folks know a cow pasture when they see one.
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