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re: Does Gus Make Bielema Feel Insecure?

Posted on 7/18/13 at 11:48 am to
Posted by WDE24
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Posted on 7/18/13 at 11:48 am to
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Ole Gus can't outcoach many so he has to resort to tricks, gimmickry,and football's equivalent to a pitcher quick pitching a batter.
Aren't his tricks and gimmickery an attempt at out coaching others. He hasn't been perfect, but he has had some pretty good success with it so far.

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It's going to be funny to watch when his HUNHAP (hurry up, no huddle, and punt) Mickey Mouse offense no longer has the "quick pitch" advantage.
When is that going to happen? Why should it not have that advantage?
Posted by DMagic
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Posted on 7/18/13 at 11:49 am to
Technically speaking the spread isn't "American" football. Maybe Bret should try to eliminate the forward pass.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 7/18/13 at 11:50 am to
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You really think there is a correlation between HUNH and player safety such that the rules of the game should be altered?


C'mon man, we're talking about a 15 second window to substitute players. He's not trying to alter the game for his benefit.

If you had watched his interview yesterday you could have seen how passionate he is about the issue. You can't watch that interview and honestly think that this guy is trying to be underhanded by changing the rules so he can win more games.
Posted by DMagic
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Posted on 7/18/13 at 11:51 am to
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C'mon man, we're talking about a 15 second window to substitute players. He's not trying to alter the game for his benefit.



that's absolutely what he's doing
Posted by RT1941
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Posted on 7/18/13 at 11:51 am to
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Do you seriously believe I don't know the difference
I don't know if you do or not - I can only judge by what you post. And I don't recall Bert having a qualm with spread offenses.
This post was edited on 7/18/13 at 11:52 am
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 7/18/13 at 11:52 am to
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that's absolutely what he's doing


Convincing argument.
Posted by WDE24
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Posted on 7/18/13 at 11:54 am to
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C'mon man, we're talking about a 15 second window to substitute players. He's not trying to alter the game for his benefit.

No, we are talking about a 15 second windo to slow down HUNH offenses. He can already sub when the offense subs. The rules are fair as they are currently set up.

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If you had watched his interview yesterday you could have seen how passionate he is about the issue.
I heard him deflect about not being a scientist and talk about some non public random email when asked to back up his claims on player safety. I also heard him reference real american football.

I think maybe you are naive. Or, maybe BB is dumb and truly believes it to be about player safety.
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 7/18/13 at 11:54 am to
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we're talking about a 15 second window to substitute players. He's not trying to alter the game for his benefit.


That 15 second window give defenses the advantage of fresh players on the field to stop the offense.

The current rule allows for player substitution.
This post was edited on 7/18/13 at 11:55 am
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 7/18/13 at 11:54 am to
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This is horse shite. Player safety is a laughable excuse to use because he doesn't like spread offenses.



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Do you seriously believe I don't know the difference




Do you?
Posted by DMagic
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Posted on 7/18/13 at 11:54 am to
Saban vs Bielema all wishbone no passing. Defenses run a 7-2-2 zone
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 7/18/13 at 11:55 am to
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That 15 second window give defenses the advantage of fresh players on the field to stop the offense.



Gives the offense the opportunity to negate the fresh players by putting fresh players of their own on the field.
Posted by RT1941
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Posted on 7/18/13 at 11:55 am to
After all this hoopla back and forth - I CAN NOT WAIT to see how Saban handles the media when they try to pummel him with questions about the HUNH/injury bullshite. Nick may blow a freakin gasket.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 7/18/13 at 11:56 am to
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I think maybe you are naive. Or, maybe BB is dumb and truly believes it to be about player safety.


Being on the NCAA rules committee gives Bret far more insight into player safety than you. Believe it or not.
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 7/18/13 at 11:56 am to
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Gives the offense the opportunity to negate the fresh players by putting fresh players of their own on the field.


That is the current rule. If the offense subs, the def can as well.
Posted by DMagic
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Posted on 7/18/13 at 11:56 am to
Maybe
Posted by WDE24
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Posted on 7/18/13 at 11:59 am to
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Being on the NCAA rules committee gives Bret far more insight into player safety than you.
Or gives him a window into the best way to couch a stance to get a rules change that benefits his strengths and may hide a weakness.

Show me the player safety stats related to HUNH. The only thing he referenced was increased fatigue stats and he didn't know those other than to make a passing reference to a random email. That isn't directly related to HUNH. If he was so serious and passionate about player safety and so knowledgeable due to his committee position, you would think he would know the science/stats.
This post was edited on 7/18/13 at 12:01 pm
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
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Posted on 7/18/13 at 12:01 pm to
Probably should eliminate all day games too. Get the players out of the heat. Wouldn't want them to get fatigued, and possibly injured.
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 7/18/13 at 12:01 pm to
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That isn't directly related to HUNH. If he was so serious and passionate about player safety and so knowledgeable due to his committee position, you would think he would know the science/stats.


He made the claim, prove him wrong.

We will all wait for the statistical analysis.
Posted by joeyb147
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Posted on 7/18/13 at 12:02 pm to
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He made the claim, prove him wrong.



That's some backward-arse logic you got going there.
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 7/18/13 at 12:02 pm to
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He made the claim


Has he backed it up?
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