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Ole Miss has the widest potential W-L variance.

Posted on 7/15/13 at 11:49 am
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 7/15/13 at 11:49 am
IMO. Ole Miss could be 11-1 or 4-8 after the Egg Bowl. I guess that's why I am most worried about that game.

Sure wins:
SE Missouri St.
Idaho
Troy
Arkansas

Certain losses:
@Alabama (assuming Bama doesn't have an emotional game with Colorado State the week before )



ETA: I should change the O/U on losses to 4.5
This post was edited on 7/15/13 at 11:58 am
Posted by LsuTool
Member since Oct 2009
34856 posts
Posted on 7/15/13 at 11:50 am to
quote:

Ole Miss could be 11-1


lol

Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
32481 posts
Posted on 7/15/13 at 11:51 am to
quote:

could be 11-1



Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
64646 posts
Posted on 7/15/13 at 11:53 am to
you just opened the LSU retard floodgates.....
Posted by Phil Wenneck
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
582 posts
Posted on 7/15/13 at 11:54 am to
quote:

assuming Bama doesn't have an emotional game with Colorado State the week before


Posted by Bama Bird
Member since Dec 2011
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 7/15/13 at 11:55 am to
While 11-1 is just ridiculous, Ole Miss is one of several teams that could be 9 or so wins, or 4 wins. Teams in the West's success is predicated on other teams' success.

Arkansas, Auburn, Ole Miss, and Miss State are all teams that we just don't know about. All could end up like 5-7 or one could be 9-3 and one 3-9. We just don't know. Making predictions in the West this year is much more difficult than previous years
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Atlanta GA - ITP
Member since Sep 2012
24937 posts
Posted on 7/15/13 at 11:56 am to
I would say their range is 5 to 9 wins.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112726 posts
Posted on 7/15/13 at 11:59 am to
quote:

Arkansas


That was a pretty close game last year.
Posted by RebFeBrees
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 7/15/13 at 11:59 am to
"OK OK Tigah fans, in an orderly fashion. Single file, no pushing and shoving."
Posted by lsutothetop
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Posted on 7/15/13 at 12:13 pm to
stahp
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68583 posts
Posted on 7/15/13 at 12:14 pm to
I think Freeze said it best earlier this year:

"We could have a better team this year but still have less wins."
Posted by dawgdayafternoon
Jacksonville, GA
Member since Jul 2011
21612 posts
Posted on 7/15/13 at 12:15 pm to
They won't go 11-1 because the West is far too tough, but they also won't go 4-8 because they return a lot of experience from an overachieving team last year.

7-8 regular season wins would be pretty realistic.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33950 posts
Posted on 7/15/13 at 12:28 pm to
quote:

Ole Miss has the widest potential W-L variance.


Typically we think of variance in terms of all the cases, not just one case. In this example, Ole Miss would be a single case, and we would have an observed number of wins and losses for them. If we had all of the other cases (all of the other teams) we could calculate the win-loss variance. Obviously, this way of thinking about variance is much different from the way you are using it.

Another way of thinking about variance would be to imagine that we could simulate Ole Miss' season. In this scenario, each sim would be a "case" and we could calculate a variance for those sims.

Of course, that can't happen, as Ole Miss will only play the 2013 season once.

Anyways...it seems a trifling point, but I think what you are REALLY trying to say is that the probability that Ole Miss wins several important games is close to .50. Of course, these probabilities are dependent on various factors including the personnel, coaches, game locations, injuries, and prior performance, and they will change over the course of the season.

In all, I find your claim intriguing, although I think it is a bit more complicated than you make it out to be.
This post was edited on 7/15/13 at 12:32 pm
Posted by bamafan425
Jackson's Hole
Member since Jan 2009
25607 posts
Posted on 7/15/13 at 12:30 pm to
Are you really willing to book that bet? Ill take O4.5 max bet please.
Posted by BigRobHog
Fort Smith, Arkansas
Member since Jan 2013
268 posts
Posted on 7/15/13 at 12:42 pm to
Im sure your just trolling but tell me how Arkansas is a sure win. Didnt ole miss need a game winning field goal to beat a john l smith coached team last year?
Posted by Arkansasrazorback
Member since May 2010
9288 posts
Posted on 7/15/13 at 12:43 pm to
quote:

Sure wins



quote:

Arkansas




That game is a toss-up.
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
10485 posts
Posted on 7/15/13 at 1:38 pm to
quote:

Ole Miss has the widest potential W-L variance.


Actually, our W number is probably 7 with a variance of 2.

Auburn and Arkansas are probably each a 6 with a variance of 3.
Posted by VT4
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Jan 2004
841 posts
Posted on 7/15/13 at 4:36 pm to
11-1 ? Yeah right. Not a chance in hell
Posted by ATLabama
Member since Jan 2013
1602 posts
Posted on 7/15/13 at 7:35 pm to
As ridiculous as it sounds, I actually agree.

I watched a lot of Ole Miss football last year, and I must say, that team under Freeze plays with a lot of Piss & Vinegar.

A discussion on another Alabama board brought the Rebels up as a possible 'trap' game for the team. I tend to agree.

In 2010, #1 Alabama seemed unbeatable after totally abusing the #6 in the country (and very overrated), Florida Gators by 30 points. The very next week, they showed up and got beat by the Gamecocks in Columbia, who at the time, had very similar talent to the Rebels of today.

That Ole Miss defense is formidable, and Jeff Scott and Donte Moncrief are as good a duo of weapons as most.

Besides the obvious 3 from last year (Georgia, LSU, A&M) the only team that came close to giving us a game was Ole Miss. It was frustrating from our perspective, because on paper, it was a totally over-matched team. Hugh Freeze gets their players to play above their heads, and with a new infusion of talent, could be a scary team.

I have a strong feeling the "power shift" has already swung to the school up north in Mississippi completely. Freeze has better players, a better scheme, and in my opinion, is just a better coach.

Seriously, do any of y'all realize just HOW BAD the 2011 Rebels were? It was the sorriest SEC football team I've probably ever seen. 2012 Auburn was bad, but they weren't getting knelt on in the 3rd quarter. For that team the very next year to go a convincing 7-6, all while giving LSU & A&M an upset scare, was incredible.

I don't think the Rebels go 11-1... that's just not going to happen. However, there is a very real chance this squad goes 9-3, and plays in a New Years Day Bowl.

For that to happen, they only need to get a W against 1 of these 4: Texas, LSU, A&M, and Alabama. If this team can improve on last system, and the new recruits buy in like the veteran players have, this team will be more than a formidable opponent all season long.
This post was edited on 7/15/13 at 7:36 pm
Posted by RBWilliams8
Member since Oct 2009
53418 posts
Posted on 7/15/13 at 8:33 pm to
They replaced arky. They'll have a few decent seasons and a lot of overhyped seasons.
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