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re: British soldier murdered on London street

Posted on 5/23/13 at 11:21 am to
Posted by wadewilson
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Posted on 5/23/13 at 11:21 am to
Well, until Catholic priests start crashing planes into buildings and hacking people to pieces with machetes in the name of the Virgin Mary, we don't have much to compare extremist Muslims to.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 5/23/13 at 11:24 am to
Agree to disagree.
Posted by TaxmanMSU
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Posted on 5/23/13 at 11:27 am to
I tend to agree with Belle here. But I think the same thing can be said for all things; Too much of anything is never good.

But as far as religion, in my town here very conservative baptists are actually trying to make an argument that crime will rise by allowing alcohol to be served by the glass in restaurants. :mindblown:

They have literally written that rape and murder specifically will rise.
This post was edited on 5/23/13 at 11:29 am
Posted by UMTigerRebel
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Posted on 5/23/13 at 11:28 am to
Do you live in Corinth?
Posted by TaxmanMSU
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Posted on 5/23/13 at 11:32 am to
Brookhaven

LINK
Posted by UMTigerRebel
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Posted on 5/23/13 at 11:35 am to
I asked because the same thing is happening there. It's crazy how up in arms the churches are over it.


Posted by AUnite
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Posted on 5/23/13 at 11:35 am to
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The things people do in the name of religion, not just Muslim, are fricking crazy

This. And Christianity's past with violence isn't exactly stellar.
Posted by wadewilson
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Posted on 5/23/13 at 11:37 am to
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This. And Christianity's past with violence isn't exactly stellar.


quote:

past


You can say that again.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 5/23/13 at 11:51 am to
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You can say that again


The 2000s for Northern Ireland weren't that long ago. Or for Israelis or Palestinians as we speak.
Posted by Supravol22
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Posted on 5/23/13 at 11:55 am to
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Or for Israelis or Palestinians as we speak.



Jews vs. Muslims


The Jews have also been constantly and repeatedly faced with their own annihilation by those neighboring Muslim countries simply because they're Jews
Posted by Bama Bird
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Posted on 5/23/13 at 11:55 am to
If we gave some of these baptist nutjobs down here the ability to impose Sharia-like law, they would do it. Thankfully we live in a nation that keeps it from happening.

The problem isn't in religion itself, it's in the radical conservatism it sometimes inspires.

But you don't have to look that far back to find some examples of radical Conservatism
-Eric Rudolph
-the guy who shot the abortion doctor in church
-lynching of blacks (done in the name of the "Bible" who supposedly said blacks were inferior)
Posted by CheeseburgerEddie
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Posted on 5/23/13 at 11:55 am to
I follow the Stevie Wonder method of thinking. Love and Compassion for your fellow humans regardless of race and religion.
Posted by wadewilson
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Posted on 5/23/13 at 11:59 am to
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But you don't have to look that far back to find some examples of radical Conservatism
-Eric Rudolph
-the guy who shot the abortion doctor in church
-lynching of blacks (done in the name of the "Bible" who supposedly said blacks were inferior)



I'm still waiting to hear an example of a group whose violence is as widespread and commonplace as that of Islamic fundamentalists.
Posted by wadewilson
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Posted on 5/23/13 at 12:00 pm to
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If we gave some of these baptist nutjobs down here the ability to impose Sharia-like law, they would do it.


You're probably right.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 5/23/13 at 12:02 pm to
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Jews vs. Muslims


Neither side is exclusive to violent acts in the name of religion (which is my original point) and it's not "in the past".

And as Bird said, the KKK and their works in the name of a warped sense of Christianity isn't exactly that long ago either.

No one here is debating that Muslim extremist aren't violent or crazy. As I said in my original post, people who do things like this in the "name of religion" are crazy. It's just not exclusive to the Muslim religion. Some fricked up shite has been done (and continues to be done) in the name of religion everywhere.
Posted by wadewilson
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Posted on 5/23/13 at 12:02 pm to
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The 2000s for Northern Ireland weren't that long ago.


IRA disarmed a long time ago. This was one country, and it was as much a political conflict as it was religious. The IRA was actually willing to negotiate. Islamic fundamentalists are not. They just want everyone who is different than them dead.
Posted by Bama Bird
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Posted on 5/23/13 at 12:03 pm to
My point was that our society and government who sees to it that we're educated and well-reasoned (relatively) prevents such widespread violence. Under those conditions, we could easily become what they are now
Posted by CheeseburgerEddie
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Posted on 5/23/13 at 12:07 pm to
I think Christianity still wins the overall body count with the crusades.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 5/23/13 at 12:08 pm to
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IRA disarmed a long time ago. This was one country, and it was as much a political conflict as it was religious. The IRA was actually willing to negotiate. Islamic fundamentalists are not. They just want everyone who is different than them dead.


Irish politics are largely based in religion so don't color me shocked that the two coincide.

That said, you're going to shoot down something that happened well within our lifetime as "a long time ago" so I'm just going to once again agree to disagree. Plenty of examples have been made though.
Posted by Bama Bird
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Posted on 5/23/13 at 12:10 pm to
Not to mention the Holocaust as well
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