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re: 10 game conference schedule
Posted on 1/28/13 at 2:54 pm to TeLeFaWx
Posted on 1/28/13 at 2:54 pm to TeLeFaWx
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I don't know if the goal is people "demanding it across the nation". It is simply more money.
Well they already have their own home markets locked up and I don't know how much more of a monetary demand they can make on carriers for games that are almost always going to be their absolute worst.
Its not like their lesser schools are selling out games every weekend. They are just going to cannibalize their home attendances to the point if it isnt a game between the biggest football schools the games are going to look like complete crap with tons of empty seats.
This post was edited on 1/28/13 at 3:01 pm
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Posted on 1/28/13 at 2:56 pm to TeLeFaWx
I'd be against it. Don't want to lose the tech rivalry.
9 is good thpugh
9 is good thpugh
Posted on 1/28/13 at 2:59 pm to TeLeFaWx
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The reality is the third place SEC team will never get in to the 4 team playoff. It is a committee with too many other interests at state, to ever allow this. You may think talent wise that 3 teams deserve it, but the system isn't going to allow for that.
And they really shouldn't
Frankly the #2 team probably shouldn't either. It diminishes the value of the regular season result and not every year the #2 or #3 SEC really be a top four or five team.
Obviously the best teams in the SEC have been regarded as the best in the country since Florida beating tOSU started the run... but that time will eventually end. In the long run I'm more worried about maintaining the value of the regular season and having a nationally relevant sport than I am about making sure my conference dominates the selection process
Posted on 1/28/13 at 3:01 pm to JDM1992
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I think we'll see what we have in baskeball's "conference challenges". I see an SEC-Big 12 Challenge. Let's assume that the ACC falls and Louisville, Clemson, Florida State, and GA Tech all go to the Big 12.
Alabama-Oklahoma
Arkansas-TCU
Auburn-Texas Tech
Florida-Florida State
Georgia-Georgia Tech
Kentucky-Louisville
LSU-Oklahoma State
Ole Miss-Kansas State
Miss State-Iowa State
Missouri-Kansas
South Carolina-Clemson
Tennessee-West Virginia
Texas A&M-Texas
Vanderbilt-Baylor
Or they could base it off standings from the previous year, excluding the teams that have traditional rivalries
That would be all well and everything except the Aggies will probably still be too scared to play Texas.
Posted on 1/28/13 at 3:02 pm to USMC Gators
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That would be all well and everything except the Aggies will probably still be too scared to play Texas.
Texas will refuse to play us so long as DeLoss Dodds runs their athletic department. We are basically waiting for that old buzzard to die off.
Posted on 1/28/13 at 3:03 pm to Dr RC
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Posted on 1/28/13 at 3:09 pm to TeLeFaWx
I haven't read the thread, but I'm guessing most Bama fans have said no while most LSU fans have said sure we play every ranked team every year anyway.
Posted on 1/28/13 at 3:16 pm to JDM1992
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Personally, I like doing it by record the previous year, excluding the teams that have traditional rivalries.
I hate this. I want to get an opportunity to travel to see games at Tennessee, Florida, and Georgia with reasonable frequency. Rotation is the only reasonable way to accomplish this.
Posted on 1/28/13 at 3:21 pm to TeLeFaWx
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I hate this. I want to get an opportunity to travel to see games at Tennessee, Florida, and Georgia with reasonable frequency. Rotation is the only reasonable way to accomplish this.
+ 1
worst option I've heard proposed was a partial rotation where Bama/Tenn, Aub/UGA would not rotate as much so they could play each other every year.
I'm not interested in playing more of the other teams and less of the UGA and Tenn games - those are the games I'm more interested in. FWIW I'd like to keep the LSU/Florida game every year as well (keeping Florida and managing the Bama/Tenn, Auburn/UGA rivalries is one of the reasons I'm so fond of the idea of pods to keep rivalries and increase the pace of rotation).
Posted on 1/28/13 at 3:26 pm to molsusports
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one of the reasons I'm so fond of the idea of pods to keep rivalries and increase the pace of rotation).
How would pods accomplish this? You're going to see years where A&M doesn't play Arkansas, Alabama, Auburn, LSU, Ole Miss, and State every year if you do that. I disagree with any scenario that does this.
Posted on 1/28/13 at 3:28 pm to TeLeFaWx
This post was edited on 2/13/13 at 9:56 am
Posted on 1/28/13 at 3:30 pm to JDM1992
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I was talking about the Big 12-SEC Challenge. For in-conference, I say we go to a 9 game schedule. Alabama-Tennessee, Auburn-Georgia play each other every year while the other teams rotate TWO non-divisional games. The Core 4 only rotate 1
ETA: That's assuming we add two new members
Well I vote we don't add members, and if we do, we never do that.
Posted on 1/28/13 at 3:34 pm to TeLeFaWx
This post was edited on 2/13/13 at 9:56 am
Posted on 1/28/13 at 5:01 pm to TeLeFaWx
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The B1G is pondering it. Given the demands of a conference network
The B1G is pondering it because the B1G is full of crappy football and losing to another B1G school instead of a MAC school probably allows some to save face and 1,000,000 dollar payouts for MACrifice games by keeping it in house.
This will not work in the SEC because even the bad SEC football teams are better than most teams not in the SEC. An 0-8 UK team in the SEC is probably at least a 4-4 team in the ACC and may be a 6-2 team in the B1G.
Posted on 1/28/13 at 5:02 pm to JDM1992
Agreed. No new members. I'm a hypocrite but who cares
Posted on 1/28/13 at 9:45 pm to TeLeFaWx
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one of the reasons I'm so fond of the idea of pods to keep rivalries and increase the pace of rotation).
How would pods accomplish this? You're going to see years where A&M doesn't play Arkansas, Alabama, Auburn, LSU, Ole Miss, and State every year if you do that. I disagree with any scenario that does this.
It would depend on the four team divisions. You would of course not play every team from the SEC West every year if the SEC expanded to 16 - but unlike an expansion possibility with 16 teams you would not see Tennessee and UGA only twice every 14 years either.
If A&M was paired with Va Tech (as their fixed out of division opponent) and in a division with LSU, Arkansas and Ole Miss you'd see:
These teams every year:
LSU
Arkansas
Ole Miss
Va Tech
These teams at least twice every 6 years:
Alabama
Auburn
Florida
UGA
Tenn
USC
MSU
KY
Vandy
MU
North Carolina (if they joined the SEC with Va Tech)
This is better than an expansion to 16 teams without pods because (with Tenn and UGA locked up to Alabama and Auburn) the majority of your opposite division rotation would be unappealing opponents even after you increased to play 9 conference games per team per year (a move not without negative consequences). In 14 years you would play 2 games against UGA, 2 games against Tennessee and 4 games against each of the following: Florida, USC, KY, Vandy, North Carolina, Va Tech
Contrast this with a pod system. You don't even have to expand the number of conference games played for the rotation to be more complete and more satisfying. In less than 12 years (using only an 8 game conference schedule) you would play each of these a minimum of four times each: Alabama, Auburn, Florida, UGA, Tenn, USC, MSU, KY, Vandy, MU, North Carolina
Pods would keep the conference more of a real conference with expansion. You would see and play all of your conference opponents on a regular basis.
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