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re: 10 game conference schedule
Posted on 1/28/13 at 2:03 pm to cokebottleag
Posted on 1/28/13 at 2:03 pm to cokebottleag
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At first glance I thought this was crazy, but with super conferences coming.....
Why is 16 the threshold for super conferences? I don't get this. 14 teams seems like a super conference to me.
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Posted on 1/28/13 at 2:16 pm to TeLeFaWx
More league games the better. Do it
Posted on 1/28/13 at 2:17 pm to TeLeFaWx
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Why is 16 the threshold for super conferences?
People in love with their 4 team pods or whatever.
Posted on 1/28/13 at 2:18 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 1/28/13 at 2:18 pm to TeLeFaWx
IMO the secret reason the Big 10 wants 10 conference games is that way there will be less of a chance they can look bad OOC thus making it easier for the media to push the idea they are still one of the very best conferences.
If we ever get to 10 conference games you can kiss major OOC rivalries and interesting mid major match ups goodbye.
Hell, mid majors like Boise would NEVER get a shot at playing a big name school again.
This is just to prop of the Big 10 and squeeze out and potential competitive threats.
because let us be honest, a couple extra games against schools like Purdue, Maryland and Indiana are going to do jack shite for a SOS in reality. Those schools are currently worse than mid majors like Boise, SMU, or Fresno even with all the major advantages they already have.
Now of course, in the made up fantasy world of a selection committee and the media, an Indiana will get more street cred than an upstart mid major even if the MM is clearly the better team. They'll just look at the name and conference patches on the jersey and give the benefit of the doubt every time.
If we ever get to 10 conference games you can kiss major OOC rivalries and interesting mid major match ups goodbye.
Hell, mid majors like Boise would NEVER get a shot at playing a big name school again.
This is just to prop of the Big 10 and squeeze out and potential competitive threats.
because let us be honest, a couple extra games against schools like Purdue, Maryland and Indiana are going to do jack shite for a SOS in reality. Those schools are currently worse than mid majors like Boise, SMU, or Fresno even with all the major advantages they already have.
Now of course, in the made up fantasy world of a selection committee and the media, an Indiana will get more street cred than an upstart mid major even if the MM is clearly the better team. They'll just look at the name and conference patches on the jersey and give the benefit of the doubt every time.
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Posted on 1/28/13 at 2:18 pm to TeLeFaWx
As long as we still play FSU (although it would be funny if we dropped them), sure. I assume that SC and UGA feel the same way about Clemson and GT.
Posted on 1/28/13 at 2:21 pm to ImperialPalace
Okay.Posted on 1/28/13 at 2:23 pm to USMC Gators
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Posted on 1/28/13 at 2:26 pm to Dr RC
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IMO the secret reason the Big 10 wants 10 conference games is that way there will be less of a chance they can look bad OOC thus making it easier for the media to push the idea they are still one of the very best conferences.
IMO the only reason is money. If 10 games means more money, then that is why they will go to 10 games. If 10 games eliminates too many home games, and they lose money, they won't do it.
Posted on 1/28/13 at 2:27 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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People in love with their 4 team pods or whatever.
I know people are so stupid with that shite.
Posted on 1/28/13 at 2:27 pm to JDM1992
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If EVERYONE is going to play an 11 "real" game schedule,
if everyone is playing an 11 game conference schedule, every single conference winner should get into the playoffs with 4 or so wildcards.
of course, that would make too much sense.
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IMO the only reason is money. If 10 games means more money, then that is why they will go to 10 games. If 10 games eliminates too many home games, and they lose money, they won't do it.
thats the thing though.
they are assuming more conference games for the Big 10 net will automatically equal more revenue. I don't necessarily think that locking themselves into more games where bad Big 10 teams play eachother is going to get people to demand the network across the nation.
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Posted on 1/28/13 at 2:29 pm to Dr RC
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Posted on 1/28/13 at 2:33 pm to JDM1992
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I don't mean 11 game conference schedule, I meant 10 conference games, 1 BCS non-conference game, and 1 cupcake.
I see, doesnt change much IMO though.
and I seriously doubt many schools will play the better BCS schools all that often.
You'll instead see two crap schools, probably at least one FCS, every single year to help insure a minimum of 7 home games.
Posted on 1/28/13 at 2:37 pm to Dr RC
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they are assuming more conference games for the Big 10 net will automatically equal more revenue. I don't necessarily think that locking themselves into more games where bad Big 10 teams play eachother is going to get people to demand the network across the nation.
I don't know if the goal is people "demanding it across the nation". It is simply more money.
Posted on 1/28/13 at 2:39 pm to JDM1992
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I don't mean 11 game conference schedule, I meant 10 conference games, 1 BCS non-conference game, and 1 cupcake.
I mean. Look at a team like Florida. If we went to a 10 game schedule, since they play FSU every year, they might always have one cupcake, and never play a big time OOC game(other than FSU) ever again. Who knows though. Maybe they wouldn't care if that meant Alabama, and Texas A&M came to Gainesville more often.
Posted on 1/28/13 at 2:44 pm to JDM1992
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I don't mean 11 game conference schedule, I meant 10 conference games, 1 BCS non-conference game, and 1 cupcake.
Still isn't balanced. Playing 10 SEC games is so much different than playing 10 conference games in any other conference. The reality is that the SEC's 3rd place team most years would win any other conference in the nation. Until that gets weighted into the system, it's just unbalanced. This year is a perfect example, if OSU is not on probation we get ND/OSU in the NC game. There are at least 4 SEC teams that would steam roll both of those teams, heck combine the ND and OSU rosters and there are still 3-4 SEC teams that kill them. The reality is that the top two SEC teams should probably get automatic tickets to the playoffs every year. Maybe the top 3 in some years. That's how far ahead the SEC is right now.
Posted on 1/28/13 at 2:46 pm to TeLeFaWx
In the current 14 team conference, I'm ok with 8, but I wouldn't sweat playing 9 conf games either.
If we moved to 16 teams, I would think we should move to an 9 conf game format. Maybe even a 10, but the money is going to have to be there. I'm sure the networks (ESPN) would love that. They are more likely to pick it up and can charge more for a USC vs Ole Miss game than they could USC vs Wofford game.
If we moved to 16 teams, I would think we should move to an 9 conf game format. Maybe even a 10, but the money is going to have to be there. I'm sure the networks (ESPN) would love that. They are more likely to pick it up and can charge more for a USC vs Ole Miss game than they could USC vs Wofford game.
Posted on 1/28/13 at 2:46 pm to Dr RC
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I don't mean 11 game conference schedule, I meant 10 conference games, 1 BCS non-conference game, and 1 cupcake.
I see, doesnt change much IMO though.
Changes a lot for the teams in the middle to bottom of the conference
A lot of fans develop apathy as the season goes on and their team piles up losses. Ten conference games is a lot for those teams (by comparison before expansion in 1992) many SEC teams only played 5-6 conference games many years.
Regarding the pods comments? Seems highly similar to what professional sports do to balance schedules while maintaining core rivalries
Posted on 1/28/13 at 2:47 pm to TeLeFaWx
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Posted on 1/28/13 at 2:49 pm to tider04
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The reality is that the SEC's 3rd place team most years would win any other conference in the nation. Until that gets weighted into the system, it's just unbalanced.
The reality is the third place SEC team will never get in to the 4 team playoff. It is a committee with too many other interests at state, to ever allow this. You may think talent wise that 3 teams deserve it, but the system isn't going to allow for that. There is too much money at stake in other places, and more often than not you're only going to get one SEC team. Once you accept that, you realize that the SEC needs to maximize it's revenue outside of trying to get more than one team in the playoff. Does an expanded conference schedule ad more revenue tv wise, or does losing a home game deter that cost. That is the only question. I promise you.
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