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re: Ranking the SEC schools academically?
Posted on 1/3/13 at 2:07 pm to sarc
Posted on 1/3/13 at 2:07 pm to sarc
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That's simply not true. Each year Bama has not only increased enrollment but also increased the average ACT scores and GPA of the incoming freshman class. And the average ACT score for an entering UA freshman is 25.6 not 22: LINK
I have heard that UA does not count special enrollment students toward those numbers. There are quit a few of those students allowed in order to increase enrollment.
Posted on 1/3/13 at 2:10 pm to Irons Puppet
I'm a little confused about this as well. I can't imagine why the guy I talked to would have said what he did if it weren't true. Unless, like I said earlier, it was just a misunderstanding.
Posted on 1/3/13 at 2:17 pm to Irons Puppet
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I have heard that UA does not count special enrollment students toward those numbers. There are quit a few of those students allowed in order to increase enrollment.
I always love that qualifier "I have heard". Forgets facts or hard data, I guess that's all that's needed to make something the gospel truth.
I assume the "special enrollment students" and their ACT scores are factored in. They're factored in with all students that made 29s, 30s, and 31s on their ACT therefore bringing the average down to 25.2. This is pretty typical at all schools. Alabama and Auburn, for example, have a very similar mean ACT average for the vast majority of students. The difference comes from Auburn decided to cap the low end at 23 whereas Bama capping the low end at 21. The ones making 21s on their ACT may have had really good GPAs and overall resumes but suck at taking standardized tests like the ACT/SAT. Neither approach is incorrect btw. It's just the difference between Bama's 25.6 ACT average and Auburn's 27 ACT average.
Posted on 1/3/13 at 2:20 pm to Irons Puppet
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I have heard that UA does not count special enrollment students toward those numbers. There are quit a few of those students allowed in order to increase enrollment.
And who did you hear this from?
It is possible to grow enrollment while simultaneously improving the qualifications of the incoming class. This is supported by the fact that UA has become more selective over time, not less selective. UA currently accepts 43.5% of applicants.
This post was edited on 1/3/13 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 1/3/13 at 2:24 pm to Irons Puppet
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That's simply not true. Each year Bama has not only increased enrollment but also increased the average ACT scores and GPA of the incoming freshman class. And the average ACT score for an entering UA freshman is 25.6 not 22: LINK
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I have heard that UA does not count special enrollment students toward those numbers. There are quit a few of those students allowed in order to increase enrollment.
That 25.6 is not accurate. I posted a while back a breakdown of ACT scores by quartile at bama and there is no way it averages out to 25.6. Much closer to 23. I can find it again if need be.
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