re: Where does Johnny Football rank among SEC quarterbacks the last 20 years?

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What the frick are you talking about? Manziel almost single-handedly beat Bama. He also made a bunch of plays in the fourth quarter of the Ole Miss game to beat them after being down by 10 points in the 4th quarter. And Tee Martin, Matt Flynn, Greg McElroy, Jay Barker wouldn't have won squat without a great supporting cast carrying them when they struggled which was quite often.

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Regardless of excuses - first year starter, first SEC game, etc. - he did not lead wins against LSU and Florida. Those games matter, too. Was he unquestionably the leader of a team that far outperformed their expectations? No doubt. Give the kid more time and he will no doubt go down as a great, but even Tebow had to have 08 and 09 to cement his place in SEC history. As I've already said, by stats alone, Manziel has to be top 10 or knocking on the door.

You are way underselling the affect of these QBs that have won titles. Sure they relied on supporting casts in a lot of ballgames, but if it was only about supporting casts LSU would be going for like a 5-peat right now.