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Posted on 11/14/12 at 4:00 pm
Posted on 11/14/12 at 4:00 pm
Some are projecting that A&M is going to be the other choice besides the SEC champ however why is Florida being dismissed so quickly.
If they somehow beat FSU (although it could happen) and Florida has only 1 loss then wouldnt be likely that they should be selected before a 2 loss sec school like LSU AM or SEC champ game loser?
I like how AM is getting some love but I would think that Florida is more deserving if they do happen to win out
If they somehow beat FSU (although it could happen) and Florida has only 1 loss then wouldnt be likely that they should be selected before a 2 loss sec school like LSU AM or SEC champ game loser?
I like how AM is getting some love but I would think that Florida is more deserving if they do happen to win out
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Posted on 11/14/12 at 4:10 pm to bishop
Fiesta is pretty far west and maybe they think A&M or some other west div team will travel better.
Posted on 11/14/12 at 4:14 pm to bishop
Florida is a very very unimpressive 1 loss team FWIW
Posted on 11/14/12 at 4:20 pm to bishop
if they finish #4 they will go. Otherwise it's up to the bowl to decide and I think for whatever reason, Florida isn't much of a draw right now. Probably their anemic offense especially without Driskell. But beat FSU and I still think any bowl would have a hard time passing on them at #5.
And I'm not sure they'd get to #4 even if the undefeateds fell. Ore/KSU/ND may well do what Bama did and not have much drop. Probably slide in just behind the Tide at #4 unless you get something weird like Wake beating ND. I don't think we can get two into the top 4 at this point bc Florida is not generating much hype and the rest will have 2 losses.
And I'm not sure they'd get to #4 even if the undefeateds fell. Ore/KSU/ND may well do what Bama did and not have much drop. Probably slide in just behind the Tide at #4 unless you get something weird like Wake beating ND. I don't think we can get two into the top 4 at this point bc Florida is not generating much hype and the rest will have 2 losses.
Posted on 11/14/12 at 4:24 pm to bishop
Florida will be the SEC's second BCS team if they win out.
If Florida loses, then it will be either A&M or LSU, most likely LSU in the Fiesta against Oklahoma or in the Rose against Big10.
I think most people are expecting/assuming a Florida loss to FSU, thus the reason most projections have either LSU or A&M in the Fiesta.
If Florida loses, then it will be either A&M or LSU, most likely LSU in the Fiesta against Oklahoma or in the Rose against Big10.
I think most people are expecting/assuming a Florida loss to FSU, thus the reason most projections have either LSU or A&M in the Fiesta.
This post was edited on 11/14/12 at 4:26 pm
Posted on 11/14/12 at 4:25 pm to bishop
Florida doesn't travel that well, especially compared to what would be a fired up A&M fan base. The TV ratings pimping Johnny Football would be much better than a boring Florida team as well. BCS bowls don't care about who "deserves" it more on the field (which at this point in the year I'd say A&M does anyway).
Posted on 11/14/12 at 4:26 pm to bishop
Don't think Florida is winning that game.
ESPN just rumored that Driskel might even be out for that game.
ESPN just rumored that Driskel might even be out for that game.
Posted on 11/14/12 at 4:33 pm to bishop
To steal a line from Clint Eastwood, "Deserve's got nothin' to do with it."
Unless Florida finishes in the top 4 and earns an automatic bid, it is completely at the discretion of the BCS bowls to choose any eligible team (14 or higher) up to the per conference limit. The winner of the SECCG gets an auto bid, but everyone else in the top 14 is fair game for that second at large bid. If the Fiesta or Rose Bowl want to grab a 10-2 LSU or 10-2 A&M instead of an 11-1 Florida, they can do it. The bowls choose teams based upon two factors: (1) ticket sales; and, (2) TV ratings. It's not hard to make a case for this year's Florida being less attractive than some 2-loss teams on those criteria.
Unless Florida finishes in the top 4 and earns an automatic bid, it is completely at the discretion of the BCS bowls to choose any eligible team (14 or higher) up to the per conference limit. The winner of the SECCG gets an auto bid, but everyone else in the top 14 is fair game for that second at large bid. If the Fiesta or Rose Bowl want to grab a 10-2 LSU or 10-2 A&M instead of an 11-1 Florida, they can do it. The bowls choose teams based upon two factors: (1) ticket sales; and, (2) TV ratings. It's not hard to make a case for this year's Florida being less attractive than some 2-loss teams on those criteria.
Posted on 11/14/12 at 4:40 pm to bishop
This is what Brad Edwards says on his Twitter. He's talking about it right now...
Fair or not, I think this is why Florida isn't getting as much attention.
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@JBradEdwards Folks, BCS at-large bids aren't always given to the team with the best record or ranking. Top concern is selling seats.
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@JBradEdwards When more than one team can guarantee a sellout, next criteria are impact on local economy and then impact on TV ratings
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@JBradEdwards Last season's Sugar Bowl defied all BCS logic. Can't explain why BSU or KSU didn't go over VT. Someone must've owed Michigan a favor.
Fair or not, I think this is why Florida isn't getting as much attention.
Posted on 11/14/12 at 5:12 pm to bishop
I don't think you'll see any bottom line difference in travel turnout for a BCS game. Florida will fill its spots just the same as aTm would.
I just think aTm has more TV appeal with Manziel.
I just think aTm has more TV appeal with Manziel.
Posted on 11/14/12 at 5:13 pm to bishop
The BCS will choose Bama as their second SEC team
Posted on 11/14/12 at 10:38 pm to bishop
To the aTm fan who said that when and if one of the 3 undefeated teams lose, they will just fall a couple of spots in the rankings. Wrong.. they will fall just like Fla. St did. Maybe not out of the top 10, but behind a few 2 loss teams. If Oregon,Kansas st., or ND lose, they will fall behind a 2 loss LSU team. Weather it's fair or not, it is what it is. SEC Powerhouses, when they lose, they fall 1 or 2 spots,everyone else fall 5 or 6 spots. I think Kansas would be the only team of the three, that would't stay in the top 10 after a loss.
This post was edited on 11/14/12 at 10:40 pm
Posted on 11/15/12 at 1:15 am to bishop
I would think A&M in the Cotton against Texas or in the Fiesta against a Big 12 team would be a natural fit - if the Big 12 team is really KSU I suppose some of the luster comes off that idea
But really A&M has a large fan-base and is thirsty for some sort of nationally recognized success - that's going to appeal to the bowl organizers because it should mean butts in seats.
If the BCS at large opening that presented for the SEC were the Orange Bowl I'd blindly guess Florida would be a better choice but that's just a guess. LSU is a good fit for either of those but probably not the geographic or historical? winner as a choice that A&M might be for the Fiesta or Florida for the Orange Bowls
But really A&M has a large fan-base and is thirsty for some sort of nationally recognized success - that's going to appeal to the bowl organizers because it should mean butts in seats.
If the BCS at large opening that presented for the SEC were the Orange Bowl I'd blindly guess Florida would be a better choice but that's just a guess. LSU is a good fit for either of those but probably not the geographic or historical? winner as a choice that A&M might be for the Fiesta or Florida for the Orange Bowls
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