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Was the '96 FSU/Florida national title rematch as controversial as '11 Bama/LSU?

Posted on 6/26/12 at 1:07 am
Posted by Monticello
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Posted on 6/26/12 at 1:07 am
In 1996, FSU beat Florida 24-21 in the last game of the regular season. Nebraska lost in the Big 12 title game and Florida got a rematch in the national title game, blowing out FSU 52-20.

I was only 10 years old when that game was played and I am curious if it was as controversial as the LSU/Bama rematch was. The scenarios are eerily similar with a close game followed by a blowout in the rematch.
This post was edited on 6/26/12 at 1:35 am
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 6/26/12 at 1:11 am to
quote:

The scenarios are eerily similar with a close game followed by a blowout in the rematch.

Except UF was a conference champion...as was FSU.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 6/26/12 at 1:13 am to
Controversial? The only people bitching were LSU and Okie State fans, everyone else knew Bama was top 2.
Posted by GCTiger11
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Posted on 6/26/12 at 1:14 am to
A 1/9 LSU-Alabama pissing match thread was definitely needed again
Posted by Tigerbait337
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Posted on 6/26/12 at 1:15 am to
Was Alabama a conference champion?
Was Florida State a conference champion?
Was LSU a conference champion?
Was Florida a conference champion?


Situations are different. Hell, Alabama didn't even finish 1st in its own division.
Posted by USMC Gators
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Posted on 6/26/12 at 1:22 am to
Even after Nebraska lost, it wasn't a national title game (yet). We needed #2 Arizona St to lose in the Rose Bowl as well.
Posted by TigerBait1127
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Posted on 6/26/12 at 1:47 am to
the circumstances were pretty different.

Florida lost on the road at FSU, not at home.
Florida won its conference as well.

Alabama should have been there because everyone else lost, but UF had a much better claim to a tittle game IMO
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 6/26/12 at 2:01 am to
quote:

Was the '96 FSU/Florida national title rematch as controversial as '11 Bama/LSU?
No.

That match up was directed by bowl ties.

There was no way to have a different game.
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 6/26/12 at 2:06 am to
Did a little digging
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NY Times'We Seminoles are not enamored of a rematch,'' said Martin Fleet, a psychologist in Marietta, Ga., who grew up in Tallahassee and is as much a Seminole as a man can be. ''I was at that first game. It was an emotionally draining experience. Now we have to do this all over again. We didn't want that.'

LSU predecessor.
quote:

Chicago Tribune"I'm obviously disappointed," Brigham Young Athletic Director Rondo Fehlberg said. BYU will play Kansas State in the Cotton Bowl.

OSU predecessor

Pickings kind of slim man. An FSU site with older posters is your best bet.
Posted by molsusports
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Posted on 6/26/12 at 2:14 am to
Probably already pointed out but no one expected Florida to come away with a championship - because it took an upset of Arizona in the Rose (as well as beating FSU) for Florida to win the NC

FSU definitely was not enthused about playing a rematch tho - it was a tough game and they were not as up for the rematch as Florida was.
Posted by TejasHorn
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Posted on 6/26/12 at 5:27 am to
In response to the OP, no it wasn't near as controversial. Mainly because the interweb message boards werent around as we know them. Any controversy was played out in the sports pages and ESPN talk shows, and that wasn't near the degree of Bama- LSU which was fueled largely by fan reaction on the web

Plus you didn't hear one clear "loser" in the situation a la OSU.
This post was edited on 6/26/12 at 5:31 am
Posted by Waffle House
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Posted on 6/26/12 at 6:11 am to
While the scenarios were similar, there are significant differences that people have pointed out in the thread.

I think most of the controversy regarding the rematch was lessened because it was a different time. Most households didn't have, or were just starting to get internet. Bloggers and message boards were pretty sparse and ESPN.com was still in its infancy.

You didn't see the 24/7 over-kill analyzing of every single thing and from what I can remember (I was in HS at the time) you didn't have nearly the number of professional trolls. People like Bayless and Finebaum weren't national brands.
This post was edited on 6/26/12 at 6:13 am
Posted by bamascott2
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Posted on 6/26/12 at 6:23 am to
quote:

Was the '96 FSU/Florida national title rematch as controversial as '11 Bama/LSU?

No, because LSU fans say that it wasn't.

We all need to forget that the BCS is supposed to pit the two best teams in the country against each other. Especially if they're in the same conference or division. Then, this rule supercedes the mission statement of the BCS. Rule 23(c) then goes into effect: the best Big XII team with an awful late season loss to a .500 team is deemed a worthy #2 opponent.
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
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Posted on 6/26/12 at 6:59 am to
quote:

A 1/9 LSU-Alabama pissing match thread was definitely needed again
Posted by northalabamacracker
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Posted on 6/26/12 at 7:51 am to
No, because no fanbase has a bigger inferiority complex as LSU.
Posted by bigpapamac
Mobile, AL
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Posted on 6/26/12 at 8:39 am to
I missed the part where this year's game was controversial. Everybody knew Alabama was a top 2 team. The only people bitching were Ok St fans cause they wanted in and LSU fans because they were scared of playing Alabama again and rather have had a patsy Big XII team.
Posted by Chimlim
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Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 6/26/12 at 9:12 am to
quote:

In 1996, FSU beat Florida 24-21 in the last game of the regular season. Nebraska lost in the Big 12 title game and Florida got a rematch in the national title game, blowing out FSU 52-20. I was only 10 years old when that game was played and I am curious if it was as controversial as the LSU/Bama rematch was. The scenarios are eerily similar with a close game followed by a blowout in the rematch.


Didn't read this thread.

But there was controversy around the 96 championship game. I believe that was the Bowl Coalition, or something like that, and they bypassed the conference tie ins and selected who played for the NC game. Bobby Bowden fought hard against playing a team they already beat.

But I do not believe it was as controversial as the '11 Bama/LSU rematch just because of the sheer amount of media coverage now. You're right though, very similiar circumstances.
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 6/26/12 at 9:46 am to
quote:

In 1996, FSU beat Florida 24-21 in the last game of the regular season. Nebraska lost in the Big 12 title game and Florida got a rematch in the national title game, blowing out FSU 52-20.

I was only 10 years old when that game was played and I am curious if it was as controversial as the LSU/Bama rematch was. The scenarios are eerily similar with a close game followed by a blowout in the rematch.


I'm not old enough to remember, but it's different because it wasn't a really a national title game.
This post was edited on 6/26/12 at 9:58 am
Posted by cyogi
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 6/26/12 at 9:55 am to
quote:

Was the '96 FSU/Florida national title rematch as controversial as '11 Bama/LSU?


It just goes to show that a playoff is sorely needed. IMO, at least an eight team playoff, include the 6 BCS conference champions and 2 "at large" (wild card) teams. If a conf. champion is not ranked in the top 20 BCS, they lose their spot in the playoffs and another at large spot opens up.
This post was edited on 6/26/12 at 9:56 am
Posted by caribG8R
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Posted on 7/3/12 at 3:52 am to
Not going to read all these pages but the 97 (96 season) Sugar Bowl did not become the MNC until the Fiesta Bowl outcome.
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