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re: Has John L Smith gone on record about leaving his alma mater high and dry?

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Posted by MDstudentHOG
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Posted on 4/24/12 at 8:56 am to
Why is everyone crying about recruiting?

... Ohio State.

Posted by 870Hog
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Posted on 4/24/12 at 8:56 am to
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All done by the book


There isn't a by the book in coaching.
This post was edited on 4/24/12 at 8:57 am
Posted by bona fide
Burma
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Posted on 4/24/12 at 8:57 am to
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. Now where are your parallels?


There are none. There is a reason that a CFB coach has never(that I remember) left a program willingly before coaching a single game. It is a dick move, plain and simple, the program that enables it is also at fault.
Posted by MDstudentHOG
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 4/24/12 at 8:57 am to
We will be fine. 9-10 wins, with a splash hire at the end.
This post was edited on 4/24/12 at 8:59 am
Posted by bona fide
Burma
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Posted on 4/24/12 at 8:59 am to
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We will be fine. 9-10 wins, with a splash hire at the end.


agree
Posted by DrVinnyBoombatz
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Posted on 4/24/12 at 8:59 am to
Because a bunch of coaches screw some ho right before spring practice right? And then get fired leaving a very good team without a coach? Happens all the time....

Seriously you sound butthurt. Did you go to Weber State?
Posted by Grateful Reb
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Posted on 4/24/12 at 8:59 am to
I don't understand why they did not promote from within if the alternative was John L Smith.

What about him was so much more enticing to long than promoting within?
Posted by BamaNixon
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Posted on 4/24/12 at 9:01 am to
This was the biggest dick move in coach hiring since the last time Arky hired a head coach.
Posted by 870Hog
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Posted on 4/24/12 at 9:01 am to
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What about him was so much more enticing to long than promoting within?


keeps the other coaches focused on coaching their positions.
Posted by sugatowng
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Posted on 4/24/12 at 9:01 am to
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There are none. There is a reason that a CFB coach has never(that I remember) left a program willingly before coaching a single game. It is a dick move, plain and simple, the program that enables it is also at fault.


How many times has a pre-season top 15 team not had a coach going into the season?

Posted by bona fide
Burma
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Posted on 4/24/12 at 9:04 am to
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How many times has a pre-season top 15 team not had a coach going into the season?


Happened to Bama very recently.

It's a tough position to be put in and it sucks. Does not mean it's OK to do anything necessary as long as it benefits the program, imo.

Go Philon!!
Posted by sugatowng
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Posted on 4/24/12 at 9:04 am to
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I don't understand why they did not promote from within if the alternative was John L Smith.

What about him was so much more enticing to long than promoting within?


Haynes - Been on staff since before Cotton Bowl
Petrino - Been on staff since before Cotton Bowl
Johnson - Came in after Cotton Bowl
Horton - Recruiting Coordinator

Haynes and Petrino are Coordinators...Johnson got the admin Assistant Head Coach and was going to start training in HC duties, but he's not ready.

If we named Horton HC, he couldn't be out on the road.

This isn't rocket science guys
Posted by sugatowng
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Posted on 4/24/12 at 9:05 am to
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Does not mean it's OK to do anything necessary as long as it benefits the program, imo.


like processing players?
Posted by 870Hog
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Posted on 4/24/12 at 9:05 am to
Posted by therick711
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Posted on 4/24/12 at 9:06 am to
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Why is everyone crying about recruiting?

... Ohio State.



Absolutely. Now you just have to move the university to one of the most talent rich states in the country and hope that one of Alabama, LSU, AU, UF, or UGA have embarrassing, tragic scandals so you can pluck their best players away. Good formula to follow.
Posted by bona fide
Burma
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Posted on 4/24/12 at 9:07 am to
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like processing players?


Since all teams do it, I don't see the correlation to this situation. As I stated, it has never happened.

The Philon situation sucked and posted about that.
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
25428 posts
Posted on 4/24/12 at 9:09 am to
There an old saying that will stay true here just as it did when the former coach bad had Bad Karma rear it's ugly head with a vengeance:

Begin Things as you Wish Them to End.

Bobby P, and now Johnny Smith, fricked their "former" employer.....it's not if...it's when the Nega-Karma comes back to Arky.

Please bookmark this post so as not to be shocked when it happens......again.
Posted by MDstudentHOG
Member since Jan 2012
106 posts
Posted on 4/24/12 at 9:10 am to
Smith was at Weber for 4 months. He didn't he recruit the freshman class. But, he had been on UA staff for the three years prior to that 4 months.

It was essentially promoting within.


.... would it have been better to take a coach that had been with a team for five years?
Posted by sugatowng
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Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 4/24/12 at 9:10 am to
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Since all teams do it, I don't see the correlation to this situation. As I stated, it has never happened.


Well it seems to happen at Bama with more regularity...Its not some cool dig I just came up with...

I think if you took the time to look at the big picture you could see why...luckly for other fans its not your problem
Posted by 870Hog
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Posted on 4/24/12 at 9:12 am to
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He didn't he recruit the freshman class


He recruited some of our incoming freshman class.

Jwill... + a few others.
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