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Clemson files lawsuit after FSU.
Posted on 3/19/24 at 9:14 pm
Posted on 3/19/24 at 9:14 pm
Clemson files lawsuit against the ACC over exit fees.
First FSU, now Clemson with many saying UNC is close behind. One big difference I've noticed between Clemson and FSU's lawsuit is that Clemson is challenging that the contract does not give the ACC media rights to the schools. If Clemson wins this, it would almost immediately sink the ACC like the PAC 2. Stanford and Cal have to be like "Haven't we already seen this show?"
I wonder if we will see the SEC at twenty teams this time next year., and if so, which 4? I know UNC is the big prize, FSU after them, but would we take Clemson, Duke, or a reunion with GT? Since distance doesn't seem to be a factor with any of this, I think it a great way to give the finger to the BIG10 would be to somehow get ND. I dint want them, but it would be funny.
First FSU, now Clemson with many saying UNC is close behind. One big difference I've noticed between Clemson and FSU's lawsuit is that Clemson is challenging that the contract does not give the ACC media rights to the schools. If Clemson wins this, it would almost immediately sink the ACC like the PAC 2. Stanford and Cal have to be like "Haven't we already seen this show?"
I wonder if we will see the SEC at twenty teams this time next year., and if so, which 4? I know UNC is the big prize, FSU after them, but would we take Clemson, Duke, or a reunion with GT? Since distance doesn't seem to be a factor with any of this, I think it a great way to give the finger to the BIG10 would be to somehow get ND. I dint want them, but it would be funny.
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 9:18 pm to Remiden
My guess is Clemson, FSU, UNC, and NCST will be in the SEC sooner or later. There is a chance they could go for 24. I can reckon 3 (Louisville, Virginia, Virginia Tech) but not the 4th. Oklahoma State? Miami? Duke? Notre Dame?
This post was edited on 3/19/24 at 9:19 pm
Posted on 3/19/24 at 9:39 pm to Remiden
North Carolina, FSU, Clemson and Virginia or Virginia Tech.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 7:32 am to remaster916
UVA and Tech I would assume is a package deal.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 7:35 am to remaster916
UVA is a great school, I worked in Charlottesville many years ago but I'm not sure it's a good fit culturally. Pretty much all colleges are bastions of liberalism but Jesus, UVA/Charlottesvile take that to a whole new level.
The student body there skews heavily to New Jersey/Pennsylvania. Not that it really matters but mother of God, some of the homeliest co-eds on the planet. Attractive women are few and far between.
People there just don't care about football. They practically have to plead with people to come to the games and the stadium is usually half full. Good/solid basketball school and they DO care about basketball there.
Finally, their fan base and alums clearly look down their collective noses at the South and the SEC. In the "Contempt/Arrogance Olympics", they get the Gold Medal every year. In terms of arrogance, they make UGA fans look like amateurs. So, if they did come to the SEC, it'd be glorious to beat their asses like a rented mule every year.
The student body there skews heavily to New Jersey/Pennsylvania. Not that it really matters but mother of God, some of the homeliest co-eds on the planet. Attractive women are few and far between.
People there just don't care about football. They practically have to plead with people to come to the games and the stadium is usually half full. Good/solid basketball school and they DO care about basketball there.
Finally, their fan base and alums clearly look down their collective noses at the South and the SEC. In the "Contempt/Arrogance Olympics", they get the Gold Medal every year. In terms of arrogance, they make UGA fans look like amateurs. So, if they did come to the SEC, it'd be glorious to beat their asses like a rented mule every year.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 8:24 am to Amarillo Tide
If the TV market is still what you are after you have to target Duke, UNC and the biggest prize ND. I doubt they would all be interested.
Please no Virginia teams.
Please no Virginia teams.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 11:24 am to Amarillo Tide
As a Virginian I can say this is spot on. Tech is ready made for Sec life. They’ll need to spend some money but the foundation is there. It’s a tremendous place to see games.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 2:48 pm to Alfie Solomons
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If the TV market is still what you are after you have to target Duke, UNC and the biggest prize ND. I doubt they would all be interested.
I think the TV market logic has completely changed in the steaming era.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 3:32 pm to Remiden
I wouldn’t mind seeing Clemson, FSU, and UNC in the SEC. Wonder if the SEC is working on it on the back burner
Posted on 3/20/24 at 6:17 pm to Alfie Solomons
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If the TV market is still what you are after you have to target Duke, UNC and the biggest prize ND. I doubt they would all be interested. Please no Virginia teams.
ALL it’s EVER been about is market share. Period.
The only reason the SEC would take a team in a market where the conference already has a presence would be defensive - to keep the B1G-Ego out of the market.
For example; the ONLY reason the SEC might take GaTech would be to keep the B1G out of the lucrative ATL TV market.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 7:22 pm to TomFromBama
One interesting thing about all of this is the three teams who voted against Cal, Stanford, and SMU were FSU, Clemson, and UNC (who is expected to sue the ACC sooner than later). So it may be that only those three are really interested in leaving the conference, but other could follow suit in self preservation/ interest.
The money discrepancy between the ACC and the SEC is expected to be between 30 and 45 million per year per school.
The money discrepancy between the ACC and the SEC is expected to be between 30 and 45 million per year per school.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 8:07 pm to TomFromBama
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ALL it’s EVER been about is market share. Period.
More about primetime marquee matchups than population with the new tv deals.
Clemson, FSU will happen
Miami and maybe another big 12 team
Posted on 3/21/24 at 5:34 am to Alabama Slim
Can't think of a single remaining Big 12 team that would bring anything to the table now that OU and Texas are in the SEC now.
Posted on 3/21/24 at 8:19 am to Alabama Slim
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More about primetime marquee matchups than population with the new tv deals.
Respectfully, we are not talking about different things. I think we are talking about the same idea, just saying it differently.
Money drives all these decisions. I think we all agree.
Posted on 3/21/24 at 9:25 am to TomFromBama
Television markets are no longer the primary driver because the longterm for live sports will be subscription apps not cable carriage.
Cable/Sat carriage is still a big factor but clearly not what a conference should frame their additions around...
We didn't add a significant market other than maybe Oklahoma City (which probably isn't that big) by adding Oklahoma and Texas...we added consistent subscribers...
Cable/Sat carriage is still a big factor but clearly not what a conference should frame their additions around...
We didn't add a significant market other than maybe Oklahoma City (which probably isn't that big) by adding Oklahoma and Texas...we added consistent subscribers...
Posted on 3/22/24 at 4:10 pm to Diego Ricardo
There are a ton of OU fans/alums here in Texas.
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