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re: New Alabama OC has 1 year experience as OC and was fired after 1 season at IU!

Posted on 2/13/24 at 2:23 pm to
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
11670 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 2:23 pm to
Back to back losing seasons. Hang in there Shug.

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Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73607 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 2:23 pm to
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ss State fan throwing shade to Bama about football?



He was simply pointing out the obvious. You gumps are just really confused and sensitive right now. Reality will hit you hard enough soon. In the meantime, the questions surrounding the health of your football program aren't always "throwing shade."
Posted by Tupelo
Member since Aug 2022
1478 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 2:25 pm to
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New Alabama OC has 1 year experience as OC and was fired after 1 season at IU!


He was fired after two seasons at IU.
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 2/13/24 at 2:26 pm to
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:huskyharsin:

Sorry you guys are so terrible at hiring head coaches?

Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
14480 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 2:26 pm to
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He was simply pointing out the obvious. You gumps are just really confused and sensitive right now. Reality will hit you hard enough soon. In the meantime, the questions surrounding the health of your football program aren't always "throwing shade."


Kinda like LSU since 2019?
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
4606 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 2:29 pm to
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His last four seasons at Notre Dame were all less than 3 losses, he had 4 and 3 at LSU the last two seasons but also was taking over a team that was .500 for two seasons.


Kelly had 23 seasons (out of 32) with 3+ losses. Deboer had 2 out of 8, and those 2 were at Fresno STate in a covid year, then a 9-3 second season.

Again, to me the similarity is Urban Meyer when he went to UF.

Meyer went 8-3 and 9-3 at Bowling Green, which to me is similar to what Deboer did at Fresno State.

Then he went 10-2 and 12-0 at Utah, which is similar to what Deboer did at Washington.

I was one of those arguing that there wasn't enough to look at with Meyer and that he'd flop at UF. I was obviously wrong about that. The argument with Deboer seems very similar, but to be honest unless you're hiring Nick Saban or Kirby Smart, a resume like Deboer's is about as good as you can hope for with a new coach as it leans toward excellence as opposed to having a lot of evidence for being good but not elite.

There are some very good coaches in college football and Kelly is one of them. Mark Richt was one of them too. Tommy Tubberville was in that category too. Barry Alvarez. James Franklin. Mike Gundy. Frank Beamer. All very good coaches. None of them elite.

Deboer's resume suggests the possibility of eliteness, just like Meyer's did. Doesn't mean it's a given. He could flop. But hiring a guy like him is obviously a program striving for an elite coach rather than just accepting a proven "very good" coach.
Posted by AUWDE
Member since Oct 2013
3187 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 2:30 pm to
You are about to know what it feels like since you just hired Husky Harsin.
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
11670 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 2:31 pm to
Wishing and Hoping Dusty Springfield
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
100,000 posts
Member since Jan 2007
49352 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 2:35 pm to
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could do nothing about the collapse of the LSU defense these last 2 years

Posted by Sleepy_Tiger
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Aug 2021
6825 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 2:37 pm to
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quote:
Am I missing something here?


Yes. Coach DeBoer is the OC.

And unlike Brian Kelly who once upon a time coached DBs and was a Defensive Coordinator, but could do nothing about the collapse of the LSU defense these last 2 years, Coach DeBoer is the man with the plan.


Posted by Lucado
Member since Nov 2023
2928 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 2:38 pm to
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We just promoted Co-OCs from within too dumb arse.



Way different situations:

1. Promoting within the same program. Our OC has SEC experience.



It's not way different on the offensive side. It's virtually identical. Kelly has an offense he wants to run. He promoted Sloan to call the plays because Sloan is familiar with the offense. Sloan's resume as an OC and a play caller is marginal, at best. Exact same situation at Bama. You can argue that Sloan has two years of "SEC experience" as a QB coach, but he has not called plays in the SEC. I wish people would think before they post instead of trying to troll Bama for doing the exact same thing we are. These types of moves happen all the time in the NFL by the way.
Posted by AU_251
Your dads room
Member since Feb 2013
11559 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 2:43 pm to
I’m sure it will go really well.

Now, how do the bammers spin this?
Posted by JamesVinson
Austin
Member since Feb 2024
620 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 2:46 pm to
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Our HC has SEC experience.



Only SEC experience he had when he was hired was getting his shite pushed in by Bama. And that hasn't changed since he was hired it seems.
Posted by JamesVinson
Austin
Member since Feb 2024
620 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 3:10 pm to
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Poor Bammers have nothing left LOLOLOLOL


Stephen, it's not like you have much left either. Other than community service that is.
Posted by Fanatic4U
Member since Dec 2023
675 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 3:14 pm to
Early Cuyler you’ve been unemployed for too many years now with no female in your life. Your parents want you out the house. Your porn addiction and addiction to men named Stephen would possibly go away if you could find a job LOLOLOL
Face it the end has come for Bama. STOP CRYING PUSSY
This post was edited on 2/13/24 at 3:16 pm
Posted by JamesVinson
Austin
Member since Feb 2024
620 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 3:16 pm to
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you’ve been employed for many years


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if you could find a job



Stephen, you're drunk again.

Tell me something, how embarrassing is it to have to give your beamer a blowjob every time you want to start it?
Posted by That LSU Guy
The beach
Member since Jul 2008
11476 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 3:19 pm to
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By the way, how's your new OC working out? I mean how many games has he won for the Cajuns so far? You might want to save your wake time for the purple and gold.


He developed a Heisman winning QB and is 1-0, anything else?

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Losing your OC and you still haven't stopped the bleeding on defense. Nothing to worry about here.


Season hasn't started, so no way to tell anything about the defense. We did however clean house on that side of the ball and brought in a lot better coaches/recruiters, so time will tell. By all accounts it has been addressed.
This post was edited on 2/13/24 at 3:23 pm
Posted by Fanatic4U
Member since Dec 2023
675 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 3:20 pm to
Hey Early tell me about the dream you had about your daddy Stephen last night??? Was it a nightmare? Did it scare you? Did you wet the bed??? Loser
Posted by Murph4HOF
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Member since Sep 2019
11364 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 3:21 pm to
Lol @ DUIstephen17 upvoting his own posts
Posted by Chip82
Athens, Georgia
Member since Jan 2023
935 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 3:32 pm to
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Perhaps, it was a personality fit.




From watching how DeBoer cleaned house with most of the analysts being given walking papers, I would call it more of a "trust" hire.

DeBoer filled the OC position with a guy he knows will do what he wants done while being able to fire the guy if he needs an excuse for a rough season.

I wouldn't call it a great hire, but I wouldn't call it a total washout at this point either.



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