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Posted on 1/15/24 at 9:08 am to
Posted by footstepsfalco
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 1/15/24 at 9:08 am to
I don’t understand why you would want to be a co-anything with the opportunity to be the man on your own. Also, I’m starting the think this is what everyone else felt like when Saban dropped his nuts on everyone for 17 years straight and all they could do was watch and hate. I’m kind of starting to watch and hate.
Posted by HighTide_ATL
Member since Aug 2020
1906 posts
Posted on 1/15/24 at 9:09 am to
Fear of failure is all I can think of
This post was edited on 1/15/24 at 9:10 am
Posted by Remiden
Member since Jan 2018
1322 posts
Posted on 1/15/24 at 9:11 am to
Same money, don't have to do it all yourself.
Posted by UASports23
Member since Nov 2009
24353 posts
Posted on 1/15/24 at 9:13 am to
quote:

I don’t understand why you would want to be a co-anything with the opportunity to be the man on your own


FWIW, I THINK the UGA DC situation is extremely explainable.


Schumann is 33 years old. Perhaps Smart believes he needs to have someone to partner with him and support him in a number of ways until they can take the "training wheels" off. He partnered Schumann with an assistant coach who has been through it all (i.e. Muschamp). Now Muschamp is leaving to be an off field analyst so that he can spend more time with his family. Kirby had an opportunity to grab Travaris Robinson who is a GREAT recruiter and ran defense with Muschamp at USCe. Now Kirby has a great recruiter on staff AND someone who knows Muschamp's mental model on defense and can replace him on the on-field coaching staff.

It seems like a win-win for CKS.
This post was edited on 1/15/24 at 9:14 am
Posted by footstepsfalco
Member since Sep 2018
789 posts
Posted on 1/15/24 at 9:14 am to
GA has so much more money than Bama that they can pay double what we can for a DC?
Posted by Panthers4life
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2017
4364 posts
Posted on 1/15/24 at 9:21 am to
Or... Kirby is micromanaging the whole situation. Schumann has been with Smart/Saban for so long, he should be able to do this with his eyes closed.
Posted by EGO3x
Member since Oct 2023
1674 posts
Posted on 1/15/24 at 9:22 am to
Evan Nick couldn't keep guys from leaving to be promoted when it comes to position to full on coordinator.

Something feels off on this one. Just doesn't make any sense. Either we didn't go all in like it's reported or he's just a little b***.

Kirby tyring to flex his little bowl cut.

You didn't have to move. Your familiar with the players. Full DC job and play calling duties. More money.

If he turned that down to be Smart's little butt boy then f***'em. We don't need soft coaches.

Optics wise it hurts and if the portal fills up on the defensive end then it'll hurt even worse. We're going to see how good DeBoer really is with recruiting when it comes to Williams and our players who are currently here.
This post was edited on 1/15/24 at 9:24 am
Posted by Roll3sRoll
Member since Nov 2019
256 posts
Posted on 1/15/24 at 9:24 am to
Do you think Downs ever gets weirded out by the chub Kirby has for him? He’ll literally try anything to get him, including taking TRob.
Posted by UASports23
Member since Nov 2009
24353 posts
Posted on 1/15/24 at 9:24 am to
Honestly, I don't care if the DC hire takes longer to fill as long as we get the right hire.

I am in the camp that I'd rather get the right people in place than to worry about players jumping ship.

Transfers out sucks but you know what sucks more? Hiring the wrong coach, having buyouts, and being stuck with them for multiple years when the player may not be around anyways due to Portal.
This post was edited on 1/15/24 at 9:33 am
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
38385 posts
Posted on 1/15/24 at 9:27 am to
Well at the time Ffrench decommitted he said he hadn't heard from anyone on the current staff.

I understand there's a lot going on, but that is....concerning. There has to be a high sense of urgency pertaining to recruiting. It is right up there at the top of the list. This is what they signed up for. Recruiting down here is a 366 day a year job
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
5999 posts
Posted on 1/15/24 at 9:30 am to
I also agree in general that right hire is better than a quick hire to try to soothe unease in the locker room. Some transfers are different than others.

6ft-nothing slot receivers like Bond are tough to lose but not as hard to replace. Big body WRs playing TE that can't block well enough to be on the field every down are tough to lose but not impossible to replace.

I just know that our best DB is being tampered with by Ohio State and he's supposedly following their players on social media to ask guys question. Our best DB is not really replaceable because he's an almost sure-thing All-Pro in 5-6 years.

Hiring a DC isn't the only way to keep him out of the portal but the trajectory of the defense next year changes dramatically with him and without him. Special care needs to be paid here by the staff. And as an outsider, I get concerned when I don't see many hires on defense yet and our best player on the roster is a safety.
Posted by Sebastian
Member since Jun 2015
3756 posts
Posted on 1/15/24 at 9:32 am to
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Kirby trying to flex his little bowl cut.
This is hilarious ??
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
5999 posts
Posted on 1/15/24 at 9:33 am to
quote:

Well at the time Ffrench decommitted he said he hadn't heard from anyone on the current staff.

I understand there's a lot going on, but that is....concerning. There has to be a high sense of urgency pertaining to recruiting. It is right up there at the top of the list. This is what they signed up for. Recruiting down here is a 366 day a year job


The dynamics of recruiting are different. When you're a new staff, you've got to recruit your whole roster and close off the current recruiting class. This causes new staffs to lose some important time building relationships for their first full recruiting class. NCAA really kinda fricked schools over here and I didn't really fully appreciate it until going through it once. It is particularly galling since it isn't like Alabama is firing their 3rd coach in 10 years. Their almost two decades head coach just retired to an admin/advisor role within the department.
Posted by UASports23
Member since Nov 2009
24353 posts
Posted on 1/15/24 at 9:39 am to
quote:

Well at the time Ffrench decommitted he said he hadn't heard from anyone on the current staff.

I understand there's a lot going on, but that is....concerning. There has to be a high sense of urgency pertaining to recruiting. It is right up there at the top of the list. This is what they signed up for. Recruiting down here is a 366 day a year job


Honestly, I wouldn't put too much thought in the 2025 class just a few days in my new role.

As of today, our coaching staff has one limited resource and that is time. We don't have a full staff to recruit and we have to prioritize what is important. I would assume the priority is as follows...

- Filling out the Football Staff
- Keeping existing team bought in
- 2024 Recruiting Class

2025 recruits are going to swing back and forth. We still have substantial time to reach out and make our cases.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19717 posts
Posted on 1/15/24 at 10:05 am to
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signs point to T Rob staying at Georgia.
what signs?
Posted by TideCPA
Member since Jan 2012
10394 posts
Posted on 1/15/24 at 10:07 am to
Whoever we decide to hire at DC it needs to be kept quiet until the ink is dry so Kirby can't swoop in and offer them an assistant equipment manager gig.
Posted by RollingStonesTider
Member since Jan 2022
29 posts
Posted on 1/15/24 at 10:08 am to
quote:

How about Corey Raymond as DB coach (not necessarily DC)? It would make the LSU board melt. I believe he's at Florida now, he might want off that sinking ship.

Funny you should mention that: I was just thinking about Corey Raymond as well. He's a fantastic DB coach and a great recruiter. Also, he's available:
LINK

I say: let's get this guy aboard asap.
Posted by EGO3x
Member since Oct 2023
1674 posts
Posted on 1/15/24 at 10:08 am to
Georgia feels confident he stays. Bama feels confident on their end as well according to BOL this morning.

Waiting for an answer. According to T Watts we'd already know this AM because he'd be on the road recruiting for whichever school but because it's a holiday we're still waiting.

Knowing Rusty and UGA I'm sure he sticks with them. On to the next one.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
42995 posts
Posted on 1/15/24 at 10:16 am to
I wonder when Alabama will start to put out official word on any of the assistants? They haven’t actually confirmed a single assistant coach hiring yet.
This post was edited on 1/15/24 at 10:16 am
Posted by HighTide_ATL
Member since Aug 2020
1906 posts
Posted on 1/15/24 at 10:24 am to
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Well at the time Ffrench decommitted he said he hadn't heard from anyone on the current staff.


I don’t believe anything a 16-17yo kid says to explain why he reversed on a commitment

Especially if the explanation absolves him of any accountability lol
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