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re: Here's a good link to the best view of the last play....

Posted on 1/4/24 at 2:29 pm to
Posted by YStar
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Posted on 1/4/24 at 2:29 pm to
Only way that play would have worked was for #77 to audible and block (and maul) the defender #81 missed on and then milroe follow right behind him.

Outside of that, that play was dead at the bad snap
This post was edited on 1/4/24 at 2:30 pm
Posted by BrianFantana
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Posted on 1/4/24 at 2:34 pm to
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You don’t think an RPO that has the QB make the decision in the first half second is slightly compromised by a bad snap?


Saban said on the Mcafee show that the snap was the main reason the play didn't work.
Posted by ChoadieMcSmalls
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Posted on 1/4/24 at 2:37 pm to
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He runs behind the pulling RG and he walks into the endzone untouched.


Wow I just watched it again from the other angle and the right guard runs around the line completely free with no one from michigan to block.

LINK
Posted by YStar
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Posted on 1/4/24 at 2:42 pm to
He said it attributed to that.

He also said he saw the play was a bad play and regretted they didn't have another play called to switch to
Posted by BrianFantana
Atlanta
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Posted on 1/4/24 at 2:43 pm to
0 is the "read" and he comes upfield to take away the throw. 77 was supposed to block 9 from Michigan. He pulls a little too wide and 9 would have had a chance to make the tackle. The low snap delayed everything and caused the play to fail according to Saban, but it still wasn't blocked perfectly but few plays are.
Posted by BrianFantana
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Posted on 1/4/24 at 2:47 pm to
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He said it attributed to that.

He also said he saw the play was a bad play and regretted they didn't have another play called to switch to


Definitely not the look you want to run that play into. Everyone would have to been absolutely perfect on the play for it to work. I personally hate pulling guys inside the 5.. just so many things that can go wrong and much less space to make something happen.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
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Posted on 1/4/24 at 2:49 pm to
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hope it’s ok that I just stole two of them?


absolutely. Any time.
Posted by PowHound
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Posted on 1/4/24 at 2:51 pm to
Take the delay, create 5 yards of space, and call the play you want your season to continue or end on.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
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Posted on 1/4/24 at 2:54 pm to
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Take the delay, create 5 yards of space, and call the play you want your season to continue or end on.




I had the exact same thought the other night after that play.
Posted by Crimson_Chaos
Alabama
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Posted on 1/4/24 at 2:56 pm to
I agree.

The most painful thing (for me), was that in real-time it looked like Milroe just fell down on his face... if he would have hit someone and tried to fight for it, it may have left a different taste in my mouth. It looked horrible in real-time
Posted by ChoadieMcSmalls
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Posted on 1/4/24 at 3:15 pm to
Wonder if the jump pass would have been a good option here. Run up the gut then stop and toss it over their heads.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
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Posted on 1/4/24 at 3:17 pm to
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Wonder if the jump pass would have been a good option here. Run up the gut then stop and toss it over their heads.



Not sure if Dippre was eligible or not, but no one would have covered him had he chipped the end and ran to the back of the end zone.
Posted by PowHound
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Posted on 1/4/24 at 3:28 pm to
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Everyone would have to been absolutely perfect on the play for it to work.


I watched Kiffin the other night scheme a guy open standing in the endzone without a defender within 10 yards of him so wide open the only fear was that the QB would throw it over his head or he would drop it out of shock that he was so open.
Posted by CrimsonFever
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Posted on 1/4/24 at 3:33 pm to
How do you feel about Kiffin’s star RB Judkins transferring? Seems like a culture problem.
Posted by jchamil
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Posted on 1/4/24 at 3:35 pm to
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How do you feel about Kiffin’s star RB Judkins transferring? Seems like a culture problem.



It really sounds more like a character issue with Judkins' family than it does any issues with the Ole Miss program.
Posted by EGO3x
Member since Oct 2023
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Posted on 1/4/24 at 3:39 pm to
Yea these pics make it pretty obvious why Milroe made this decision. I could'nt understand why he'd chose to go into the meat of the defense 3-4 yards out but it makes sense.

I still don't like the play call. The QB run was working in the game but still...the reason it failed is why I hate the call. Let your QB have the option to use his speed to run it in by rolling out or he can throw it in the endzone.
Posted by CrimsonFever
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Posted on 1/4/24 at 3:44 pm to
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It really sounds more like a character issue with Judkins' family than it does any issues with the Ole Miss program.


I heard they “claim” they didn’t get what they were promised for him playing last season.

He, like most players in the portal does seem to be looking for the highest bidder.
This post was edited on 1/4/24 at 3:54 pm
Posted by PowHound
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Posted on 1/4/24 at 3:56 pm to
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How do you feel about Kiffin’s star RB Judkins transferring? Seems like a culture problem.


I just got in, and haven't even heard about that. I'm sure its money related.

My next thought is Lane will find somebody out of HS nobody has ever heard of, or sign a free agent out of the portal, and take whoever it is and make them look better than our starting RB this season no matter who it is.

Be honest, was this not the most boring season of RB play you have ever witnessed at Bama ? I dare somebody to give me an example of a more boring rotation than Jase and Roy with Rees at the helm.



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This post was edited on 1/4/24 at 4:12 pm
Posted by Glorious
Mobile
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Posted on 1/4/24 at 4:07 pm to
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Lets get real, it was slightly better than 40% of the snaps all season long. Every play we ran all year started with a bad snap, and this one in particular while not good wasnt nearly as bad as a lot of the others, and was almost knee high. It wasnt the snap.


But like I said, it was an RPO where the decision to throw is made at the snap. The snap was at Jalen’s shins and sideways. It almost certainly took his eyes off the read at least partially. The bad snap killed the play unless:

A)Milroe gets lucky and runs to a random hole

Or

B) Milroe hastily throws it out to the back regardless of read and both the throw is on target and the blocking by the wideouts is sufficient
Posted by PowHound
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Posted on 1/4/24 at 4:15 pm to
The only problem with you theory is he never looked left where the options where at. He looked right, and then dove up the middle.

No doubt it was all a cluster, and the coaches deserve as much blame as mclaughsnap and milroe, but looking at the play I cant see anything other than pure panic. Bro, He Dove into the pile without a foot on the ground to run forward, and landed like what ? four yards from the endzone ? lol Pure panic.
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