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re: ESPN monopoly power: “You’ll take 720p broadcasts and like it.”
Posted on 8/28/23 at 3:18 pm to CrimsonBuddha
Posted on 8/28/23 at 3:18 pm to CrimsonBuddha
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Maybe the internet providers can't handle the bandwidth? Idk
Not the case
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Posted on 8/28/23 at 3:21 pm to Mstate
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I read somewhere that each camera is roughly $350k to setup to broadcast 4k.
Fox shoots at 1080p and upscales it to 4K.
Posted on 8/28/23 at 3:21 pm to Nitro Express
I think the best thing Disney could do is spin off ESPN to Amazon or Apple for massive amounts of money they’d probably get more than any deal of this type in history for it if they were able to separate ABC with ESPN and spin it off 100% without trying to maintain any stake in it. This will be way more than enough to save them and go way behind restoring them without having to take on more debt or commit suicide by giving away what could amount to almost a board to seat to the company that owns Universal who is also kicking their arse.
Ofc this results in them losing their biggest Tv/film/etc money maker BY FAR and would look absolutely awful. If they scaled back to focus on what they should be focusing on theme parks, cruises, finding someone capable of making prestige tv to make Disney+ with Hulu integration profitable sometime before I die, make some kind of apology to the public for certain things, and most importantly making actual good movies that drive their biggest money maker by far the theme parks and merch, they will rebound rapidly.
They will NEVER do this though.
Ofc this results in them losing their biggest Tv/film/etc money maker BY FAR and would look absolutely awful. If they scaled back to focus on what they should be focusing on theme parks, cruises, finding someone capable of making prestige tv to make Disney+ with Hulu integration profitable sometime before I die, make some kind of apology to the public for certain things, and most importantly making actual good movies that drive their biggest money maker by far the theme parks and merch, they will rebound rapidly.
They will NEVER do this though.
Posted on 8/28/23 at 4:02 pm to Nitro Express
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I've also been following the rapid decline of Disney. To be honest, I'm super pumped about it. frick them.
Dittos.
Theirs is a self inflicted self-destruction if ever there was one therefore it is richly deserved.
Posted on 8/28/23 at 4:02 pm to td01241
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If you’re using the internet, yes. That’s still only like 52%ish of America.
i have comcast, and everything is 1080 through cable. didnt realize some providers are still using 720.
Posted on 8/28/23 at 6:31 pm to Warwick
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i have comcast, and everything is 1080 through cable. didnt realize some providers are still using 720.
ESPN networks do it whenever they have the scroll bar (with Disney ad) at the bottom of the screen taking up 15% of a TV's viewable area, which is 99% of the time they are broadcasting. It is my understanding the NFL requires they remove the scroll bar for all of their games. The CFP required them to do it as well. I will be pissed as frick if the SEC doesn't require them to do the same, at least for the 230pm game. I freely admit to being a telecast quality nerd so there is that.
Posted on 8/28/23 at 6:41 pm to Ag Zwin
Holy shite other places are going 4k? How do I get these broadcasts?
Posted on 8/28/23 at 6:44 pm to Warwick
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not to split hairs, but most, if not all, broadcasts are in 1080i.
I thought sports wasn’t 1080i so they could get higher frame rates and not interlace which they can’t do on current infrastructure in 1080?
Posted on 8/28/23 at 7:09 pm to Ag Zwin
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when other platforms are moving into 4K?
Name these platforms? Fox was broadcasting one game a week last year in 4k. That's it.
Which stated earlier in the thread is upscaled 1080p. Which is still 4x better than typical broadcast 1080i content.
This post was edited on 8/28/23 at 7:19 pm
Posted on 8/28/23 at 7:15 pm to Warwick
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everything is 1080 through cable. didnt realize some providers are still using 720.
You are getting confused between 1080i and 1080p. 1080i is not any better and usually worse than 720p, especially when it comes to fast moving sports.
TV stations either broadcast in 1080i (most common) and 720p. Nobody broadcasts in 1080p that I know of. There are some specialty 4k broadcast channels now though
This post was edited on 8/28/23 at 7:17 pm
Posted on 8/28/23 at 7:22 pm to CISO
Posted on 8/28/23 at 8:01 pm to Ag Zwin
TV Answer Man
Some highlights:
1. Despite what people have said, no most people couldn't actually watch in 4k.
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So once again, despite what people have said. Lots of costs and it's not just "cameras" it's infrastructure.
4k video takes up over 20 times the storage space as 720p video
3. The actual camera work and post production are different enough that you can't just easily move people from regular HD to 4k devices.
Some highlights:
1. Despite what people have said, no most people couldn't actually watch in 4k.
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Producing and broadcasting live sports in 4K is considerably more expensive than in traditional HD. To broadcast in 4K, TV networks need to invest in new equipment and technology, hire specialized personnel, and purchase expensive licenses.
So once again, despite what people have said. Lots of costs and it's not just "cameras" it's infrastructure.
4k video takes up over 20 times the storage space as 720p video
3. The actual camera work and post production are different enough that you can't just easily move people from regular HD to 4k devices.
Posted on 8/28/23 at 8:14 pm to UltimaParadox
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Fox was broadcasting one game a week last year in 4k. That's it.
At 11:00am.
Posted on 8/29/23 at 8:53 am to jlovel7
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Holy shite other places are going 4k? How do I get these broadcasts?
There are some NFL games that are done in 4K, and that seems to be targeted for increase.
Plenty of streaming material is in 4K. I recognize that using this as the realistic goal for college games is premature, but there is a fairly clear path being staked out.
Regardless of when that day comes, still using 720 (especially for big-time games) when 80+" TV's are so commonplace is just pathetic.
This post was edited on 8/29/23 at 8:54 am
Posted on 8/29/23 at 9:59 am to Ag Zwin
NBC had the Notre Dame/Navy game in 4K this past weekend.
Posted on 8/29/23 at 10:00 am to ArabianKnight
I don’t pay extra for 4K on YT TV, we’re the sidelines green in 4K as well?
Posted on 8/29/23 at 11:19 am to Ag Zwin
Said this in the other thread…
ESPN converts End to End 4K
4K answer man fox vs ESPN 4k
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Fox films at 1080p and upscales to 4K but uses HDR. ESPN films and broadcasts at 4K but doesn’t use HDR. Not all broadcasts by either company are in 4k. In addition only certain providers have the rights to provide a 4K broadcast to their customers. On the streaming side, YouTubeTV and Fubo are the ones to get for 4K.
ESPN converts End to End 4K
4K answer man fox vs ESPN 4k
Posted on 8/29/23 at 11:21 am to Ag Zwin
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Q: Why does ESPN still broadcast games in 720p when other platforms are moving into 4K?
A: Because we are focused on politics and not sports.
fify
Posted on 8/29/23 at 11:31 am to jvilletiger25
English premier league is in the great quality. Fox airs it but not sure if they film it
Posted on 8/29/23 at 11:41 am to CrimsonBuddha
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Yeah it's weird that almost everyone has a 4K TV at this point but nobody is broadcasting in 4K
The bandwidth doesn't exist to broadcast in 4k (I am talking cable and satellite TV, not internet). These providers would have to cut their channel line-ups to free up bandwidth.
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