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re: Am I the only person not wanting Deion?

Posted on 11/2/22 at 3:07 pm to
Posted by SingleMalt1973
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 11/2/22 at 3:07 pm to
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If he was some flash in the pan like Bryan Harsin


Harsin won the Sunbelt at Arky St in one year he was there as head coach. He had 10 win seasons 5 out of 7 years at Boise St. When he was OC at Boise their record was 61-5. Hardly a flash in the pan.
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 11/2/22 at 3:22 pm to

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Harsin won the Sunbelt at Arky St in one year he was there as head coach. He had 10 win seasons 5 out of 7 years at Boise St. When he was OC at Boise their record was 61-5. Hardly a flash in the pan.



Bryan Harsin has never once built anything in his entire career. He went 7-5 at Arkansas State after he followed Freeze (who went 10-2) and Malzahn (who went 9-3). So he inherited a winning team and made them worse in his one season there. Then he went to Boise State, a program that was already long developed and winning, and managed to drive the bus.

When I state flash in the pan, I mean that all his "talk" is hollow and for show. It works with a team at a lower level that is already primed to win. If you have a team that is already winning, there isn't much work to be done to motivate because the roster is already used to winning and what it takes to achieve that.

Deion Sanders on the other hand inherited a team that was 4-8 in the season prior to him arriving at Jackson State. They were 5-5 in the season before that. They were 3-8 the season prior to that.

In his 2nd season on the job they went 11-2 and won the conference title. In his 3rd season they are currently 8-0.

What that strongly suggests is that his ability to motivate is for real: none of those kids had any exposure to winning before they got there. You saw what happened with Harsin trying to motivate from a position of weakness: nothing. He's all talk and no results.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 11/3/22 at 9:05 am to
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Harsin won the Sunbelt at Arky St in one year he was there as head coach. He had 10 win seasons 5 out of 7 years at Boise St. When he was OC at Boise their record was 61-5. Hardly a flash in the pan.


In the 12 years, under 2 coaches, before Harsin took over Boise had 3 seasons where they lost 3 games. In Harsin's 6 full seasons he had 4 such seasons. They didn't completely fall off but he was definitely overseeing a decline.
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