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re: What's your take on UAB's situation?

Posted on 12/2/14 at 10:20 pm to
Posted by WeagleAU
My house
Member since Oct 2014
1693 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 10:20 pm to
Hasn't stopped ND in football from playing teams in conference.

In basketball most bigger colleges want a 2-1 and UAB would gladly take it. Some of smaller schools would and could agree to 1-1.

Hell even if UAB 2-0 home home against bigger schools still money in their pockets and could create a schedule.

Take UNC schedule for instance: They open on Jan 3rd for conf play. Next game the 5th. Then they don't play till Sat.

UAB slides in on Wed.


From Mon Jan 26 to Sat Feb 7 UNC plays 4 games.

So yes they can schedule a UAB type team. Game on. Still love you.
This post was edited on 12/2/14 at 10:26 pm
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 10:20 pm to
I sincerely hope that the outrage in Birmingham parlays into firing President Watts and finding a way to split from the UA system and become the University of Birmingham.

The UAB football is losing money excuse is a crock of shite. Something like 20 athletic departments in the entire country actually make money. The reason you have a football team is because the exposure you gain from a D-1A football program is priceless for the University and the rest of the AD. It's worth the spent money for the school.
The football team itself was just turning the corner competitively with Bill Clark.

If UAB was able to go through with its plan for an on campus stadium and improving the campus then that is good for the entire city of Birmingham. Anybody in the greater Birmingham metro should support that whether you're a Bama fan or not.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 10:20 pm to
belt won't happen without losing a member, it would put us off balance.

if we drop idaho and add nmsu as a full member, maybe
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48938 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 10:25 pm to
I have a feeling this is just the start.

Get ready for the next phase of athletic cuts. Eventually uab undergrad experience will dissolve and it will purely become med student only

Then I'm sure the bot will rebrand the hospital as Paul Bryant Jr hospital
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 10:42 pm to
Oh, I'm sure.

UAB is about to be kicked out of CUSA over this. UAB has very solid baseball and soccer programs going in CUSA. Maybe the basketball team can survive as an indepent but the rest of the sports can't. Give it a couple years and it'll be "Well baseball and soccer aren't doing well now, cut them. Financial drain." Then it'll be "Well why should keep an athletic department around for just basketball? We should just focus on academics."

If the city of Birmingham wants what's best for itself it will do all it can to help UAB find a way to break away and rebrand as the University of Birmingham
Posted by Rig
BHM
Member since Aug 2011
41856 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 10:49 pm to
quote:


Hasn't stopped ND in football from playing teams in conference.
Totally different matter. Teams still play nonconference games in November in football. That's normal. There's a reason ND has been in the Big East and now the ACC in hoops.

quote:

In basketball most bigger colleges want a 2-1

And they want those games played before January. Typically once conference play begins that's all you play.

quote:

From Mon Jan 26 to Sat Feb 7 UNC plays 4 games. 

All 4 are conference games by design. UNC plays nothing but conference games once January 3rd rolls around. Same goes for almost 99% of college hoops.

You're missing my point.
This post was edited on 12/2/14 at 10:51 pm
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41106 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 10:54 pm to
I got a feeling this is just getting started. Too many people pissed off about it.
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22455 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 12:19 am to
quote:

I got a feeling this is just getting started. Too many people pissed off about it.


I really hope so, there needs to be a reckoning for this crap.

Free UAB
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22455 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 12:26 am to
This link is heart breaking, it is the players talking to President Watts.

LINK
Posted by AUlove23
birmingham AL
Member since Aug 2012
481 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 6:30 pm to
Real question as I am young and don't know how this works completely. Would it ever be possible for UAB to separate from UAT completely and join auburns system for support? (Hypothetical)
Posted by DecaturAU
Birmignham, AL
Member since Jan 2011
780 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 6:33 pm to
UAB started a football donors program at the beginning of this year, so it didn't have time to start bringing in huge amounts. A donor/alumni 2 weeks ago said he would give $10 million and the powers that be turned it down. This was not a decision made this year. This was planned years ago and no amount of money raised or donated since this all started was going to change it. They could have been pledged $30 and it wouldn't have mattered. They would just brush it under the table like it didn't happen. Coach Clark was hired with the intention of running the program into the ground and in 3-4 years cancel it. But little did they know he was a damn good coach and could turn it around. The BOT saw this and panicked so they pulled the plug now instead of waiting 3 years when they could be a 9+ win football team.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42561 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 6:46 pm to
Short answer... No
Posted by AUlove23
birmingham AL
Member since Aug 2012
481 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 8:45 pm to
Ok I guess I just want to have hope for UAB. I went there for a short time but loved it down there.
Posted by AUin02
Member since Jan 2012
4281 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 12:48 pm to
Alabama is scared of UAB, big time. Not the football program per se, but the university as a whole. Lots of rumors flying that the BoT is looking to slow or limit UABS under grad enrollment and push it to being just a grad school.

A friend who works at UAB as an administrator told me a lot of the higher up admins have either found a new job or will be finding new jobs soon. This has been very bad news for the city of Birmingham. UAB could be one hell of an independent university but getting out from under Alabama's thumb, especially with the limp dick they have for a president, is basically impossible. Lord knows this governor doesn't give a shite about it.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105405 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 12:52 pm to
quote:

Lord knows this governor doesn't give a shite about it.



Oh he does give a shite, but only in the interests of those that oppose UAB.
Posted by AUin02
Member since Jan 2012
4281 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 12:55 pm to
Well, yeah.

So hard for this state to make progress with so many people invested in maintaining the status quo. You'd think the governor would have a vested interest in supporting the state's largest employer.
Posted by Scrimpin Gary
ATX
Member since Feb 2013
1073 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 9:44 pm to
I haven't read the last 4 pages but this is my take on it. I graduated from AU and have a second degree from UAB due to living In bham and it being the easiest option. I think academically it blows UA away. With that being said I've seen people mention how this hurts the city which it absolutely does.

I never went to a game as legion is In a terrible area and I'm frankly not comfortable going to that area.

Bham is trying to build all these new restaurants/bars and social areas. Well a stadium for uab could have been the hub for such an area and really brought a ton of economic growth to the area.

I live In TX now but feel bad for Birmingham as many would like to see a quality football game when they can't make that trek to AU or UA. I know I would have.
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 9:50 pm to
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I never went to a game as legion is In a terrible area and I'm frankly not comfortable going to that area.

Bham is trying to build all these new restaurants/bars and social areas. Well a stadium for uab could have been the hub for such an area and really brought a ton of economic growth to the area.

I live In TX now but feel bad for Birmingham as many would like to see a quality football game when they can't make that trek to AU or UA. I know I would have.


Bingo. Nailed it
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22455 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 10:43 pm to
quote:

A friend who works at UAB as an administrator told me a lot of the higher up admins have either found a new job or will be finding new jobs soon.


What you are saying is the truth. My wife was assistant prof at UAB, it was getting to the point of the new leadership's actions (disdain for Honors Program, De-emphasis on undergrads, and isolation of medical school) that she started applying for new positions.

That is why i am freezing my arse off in Pennsylvania now. I had to give up my teaching job, but she just did not like where the future of UAB was headed.
Posted by Robo
Atlanta-B'ham-NashVegas
Member since Feb 2014
67 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:21 pm to
I bet Ray Watts won't step foot on the campus without security guards at his side. Hopefully any BOT member will remain in good health, because I've personally seen many University Hospital workers support the football program.
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