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Posted on 11/15/16 at 10:37 am to AUCE05
Personally, I'm ready to see better coaching decisions from whomever is tapped. Especially concerning things like clock management, play calling, second half adjustments, and player development all which seem pipe-dreams at the moment. The perennial matters such as running the wheels of of one RB only to OMG find out there's always been another, and not having a QB (or right type of) ready to play don't seem guru like to me... could we sue Jimmy Sexton for fraudulent advertising?
Still weighing his buyout and the fruit basket mentally we are projecting I'm afraid he's got another year to show improvement. However any gazillion-dollar coach should expect the boot with another eight win season of losses to the same SEC teams.
Damn, I'd love to be paid so well...
. ... ... while still in on the job training!
Still weighing his buyout and the fruit basket mentally we are projecting I'm afraid he's got another year to show improvement. However any gazillion-dollar coach should expect the boot with another eight win season of losses to the same SEC teams.
Damn, I'd love to be paid so well...
. ... ... while still in on the job training!
This post was edited on 11/15/16 at 10:38 am
Posted on 11/15/16 at 10:39 am to TigerPaw1
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I have been as pro Gus as you can be but man that loss Saturday was a kick in the gut. He has now blown 3 of 4 games against UGA with a hail mary needed to win that other one. I don't think making a move would be wise but damnit does he make it hard to buy in all the way when he consistently loses games we have no business losing.
If he had simply won that game this season could go down a success no matter what against Bama because we would have a 9-3 regular season with plenty of momentum heading into the bowl & offsesaon. Wins against every team that beat us last year sans Bama & might shut up some of the heavy negative recruiting going against us specifically from UGA. An Iron Bowl win would be a huge save to this season but I just don't see it happening at this point.
Bottom line is next season Gus has to beat UGA & Bama. Losing 4 straight seasons to your arch rival is unacceptable. He has wasted a solid & now a great defense in back to back seasons due to inability to find a QB. He apparently has no faith in the JUCO QB he signed this past year while Jerod Evans is having a solid season at VT. No doubt injury bug has bitten us bad this season but a school like AU should have the depth to at least put out a serviceable backup if needed.
I once thought he was one of the top offensive minds in football but watching him struggle to adapt to problems (JJ busting last season & injuries this year) make it hard for me to believe that anymore. I still think he can be successful & with a bowl win a 9-4 season aint bad at all. The problem is at least 2 of those losses can be put squarely on coaching which makes that record feel hollow
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Posted on 11/15/16 at 10:52 am to TigerPaw1
You're assuming we picked Evans and not vice versa... we signed a JUCO backup QB to be our backup QB... Evans followed a new coaching staff.
There's just a lot of assumptions when it comes to his recruitment and ability in or system (compared to white).
There's just a lot of assumptions when it comes to his recruitment and ability in or system (compared to white).
Posted on 11/15/16 at 10:59 am to lowspark12
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You're assuming we picked Evans and not vice versa... we signed a JUCO backup QB to be our backup QB... Evans followed a new coaching staff.
There's just a lot of assumptions when it comes to his recruitment and ability in or system (compared to white).
Fine. My main point though was we signed a JUCO QB we don't trust to play. Right now we have exactly one QB apparently and he can't go a full season. That's unacceptable for a team that has consistently landed top 10 classes. And following our QB recruiting right now if we don't get Stidham there's a very high chance we will be stuck in same position this season unless Woody Barrett is ready to go next year (ready to go meaning he can play when White gets hurt by week 7 next season)
Posted on 11/15/16 at 11:01 am to lowspark12
great way to get yourself fired is to look unprepared. I didnt say anything about SW not looking good at any point so unruffle your vagina. IMHO I hope Gus takes every option available to get himself fired. more often than not when faced with ANY adversity Gus comes away looking unprepared. our passing game is a joke to decent HS teams. our inability to adjust to a simple bull rush, at this level, is inexcusable period. 3 weeks in a row we have guys timing our snap count and coming untouched up the middle killing your ONLY remotely viable QB is a great way to get yourself fired.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 11:06 am to TigerPaw1
Most every team in CFB would be relying on a little used QB if their starter got hurt... that would mean Barrett next year. This idea that we should have an experienced ready made backup QB is not reality.
If you want to kill him for signing Franklin, go ahead. The real issue is JJ being a massive bust... and we're still dealing with the aftermath. That's on Gus too
If you want to kill him for signing Franklin, go ahead. The real issue is JJ being a massive bust... and we're still dealing with the aftermath. That's on Gus too
Posted on 11/15/16 at 11:09 am to lowspark12
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The real issue is JJ being a massive bust... and we're still dealing with the aftermath. That's on Gus too
You're right there. Gus didn't hardly worry about QB recruiting a few years ago, because he thought he had his guy. That's just dumb. Uat has plenty of recruiting busts, but their roster is loaded to cover up those players that didn't pan out.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 11:11 am to AUTiger45
Do yall remember Apollo 13? There was a scene where an engineer walks into a room full of engineers and says we need to make this (box) fit into this (another box) using nothing but this (all the junk they had in the capsule).
I always thought after 2013 that'd be gus. This is what I got, how can I win with it? Sean is broken, can't throw, what can I do on the fly? I didn't see that Saturday or in a long time. Not since 2013. And losing to rivals while proving he can't adjust is maddening.
If he can go to Bama and win without SW and Kam by adjusting on the fly, dude is worth every penny he's being paid.
I always thought after 2013 that'd be gus. This is what I got, how can I win with it? Sean is broken, can't throw, what can I do on the fly? I didn't see that Saturday or in a long time. Not since 2013. And losing to rivals while proving he can't adjust is maddening.
If he can go to Bama and win without SW and Kam by adjusting on the fly, dude is worth every penny he's being paid.
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Posted on 11/15/16 at 11:21 am to N97883
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If he can go to Bama and win without SW and Kam by adjusting on the fly. Dude is worth every penny he's been paid.
If he can just compete then he will show his ability to be the "mad scientist" we all thought he was. If not then maybe somebody like the AD needs to sit down and have that talk.
He could lose by 3 scores, but I will not be mad if he will get out there and just air it out. Let JF3 make bad throws and fumble running it, but make them defend what strengths we have available.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 11:26 am to JRoweMDN
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If he can just compete then he will show his ability to be the "mad scientist" we all thought he was. If not then maybe somebody like the AD needs to sit down and have that talk.
He could lose by 3 scores, but I will not be mad if he will get out there and just air it out. Let JF3 make bad throws and fumble running it, but make them defend what strengths we have available.
I tend to agree. What I don't want to do is play like we're protecting a slim lead when we're actually down and struggling mightily. Which is what I think we'll probably do.
Gus has done the Tubershell a few times when no fan in the place thought we could win doing it, and generally we haven't. With Alabama in particular, I worry he will do that to avoid a larger loss.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 11:27 am to JRoweMDN
Agree.
2 runs up the middle and then passing on 3rd and long and punting will cost him a lot more than a game.
Gambling won't necessarily cost him imho.
2 runs up the middle and then passing on 3rd and long and punting will cost him a lot more than a game.
Gambling won't necessarily cost him imho.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 11:30 am to N97883
Gus has never been the type that could adjust on the fly. He has only been successful when his bread and butter happened to be unstoppable. Think about how many times he told Cam, "I need 3 yards. Go get it." and he made it happen almost without fail. Same thing with Tre Mason in 2013 and now Pettway this year. We only seem to have an "offensive genius" when he is able to latch on to a freaking bulldozer and ride it until it quits. That's not a great trait to have when you have a hard time differentiating between bulldozers (Cam) and push mowers (Jeremy Johnson).
Posted on 11/15/16 at 11:30 am to JRoweMDN
He "competed" in Tuscaloosa two years ago in an almost identical situation... and you guys are still ready to kill him 
Let's be real... a lose in two weeks is going to do nothing for you.
Let's be real... a lose in two weeks is going to do nothing for you.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 11:33 am to Pettifogger
IMO playing SW has always been about getting to next season as a coaching staff. JFIII still appears to have a higher upside than SW even in the limited time we have seen. However, it is unlikely we beat ole miss or LSU with JFIII running the show. Assuming he didn't get the reigns against Clemson and grow into the role. SW was a 7-9 win season and that is what we are getting. All the talk about beating Clemson, etc...fails to recognize they called their game differently because of what we could/couldn't do. There is no guarantee we win that game simply by sticking with a single QB.
SW is a gamer, accurate, etc...but there is almost zero chance he has the physical tools in any offense to put a team on his shoulders and lead them to victory when a D full of NFL prospects line up across from him.
SW is a gamer, accurate, etc...but there is almost zero chance he has the physical tools in any offense to put a team on his shoulders and lead them to victory when a D full of NFL prospects line up across from him.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 11:38 am to lowspark12
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Let's be real... a lose in two weeks is going to do nothing for you.
A loss makes no real difference to our season or bowl game. A "quality loss" plays towards recruiting, bowl selection, booster support, etc. The next 2 weeks are about coaching if the injury rumors are true. What this team does will be about heart and coaching. They have the heart and I believe they have the coaches too.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 11:40 am to Tigerman97
JF3 is not a QB, or ever will be. He literally was a wasted scholarship. It is Woodey and the field (who we bring in). This goes back to my original point, we need stability more than anything right now.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 11:49 am to AUCE05
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JF3 is not a QB, or ever will be. He literally was a wasted scholarship. It is Woodey and the field (who we bring in). This goes back to my original point, we need stability more than anything right now.
I respect your thoughts, but in the end he has shown enough to me to wonder what it would have been like if they had no choice but to play him. He might have failed miserably, but he clearly is fast, has great arm strength and even behind the crappy oline of the first few weeks found some running lanes on the zone read.
That being said I don't blame the coaches for going with SW. He was a much safer bet to get to 7-9 wins and allow them to stick around next season. He was also a guarantee that we wouldn't push seriously for Atlanta nor will he ever be.
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Posted on 11/15/16 at 11:51 am to AUCE05
If jf3 was all you had for ib, what then? Can he toss it at least 15 yards to a wide open wr if one gets open because of... magic?
Posted on 11/15/16 at 11:56 am to AUCE05
Yet the staff wanted him over Jerod Evans...who's been REALLY good for Va Tech.
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