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re: D staff notes

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Posted by SlimCharles140
Member since Dec 2011
1908 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 9:08 pm to
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We had 20+ INT this year, Melvin Smith didn't do great but woring with Mincy and Jonathan Jones means he'd have to be Jesus to make that miracle happen

agreed. He did pretty well with what he had to work with at MSU also. Harbison is the bad apple I think.
Posted by polydorr
Member since Nov 2013
1385 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 9:11 pm to
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He made 600k while at AU. Not to mention he coached the worst unit on our team. The shite talking he gets is deserved.


Smith's been coaching SEC CB's for almost 20 years and has a Thorpe award winner to his credit. Keep in mind he's only been here for two years with guys he didn't even recruit for the most part.

Honestly, the saddest part of the football arms race is the lack of patience. I have no doubt that Smith could do well if he had a few years like he did at MSST. You just don't always get that chance with a change of coordinator.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37706 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 9:13 pm to
I don't know if Smith will ever be great considering he isn't an elite recruiter and he isn't the greatest CB coach. Don't kid yourself into thinking he isn't solid and can get the job done as a last resort
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22454 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 9:19 pm to
Muschamp should probably get the say on who his guys are if he is going to take all the heat/responsibity for the defense.

Smith will get picked up by someone.
Posted by Warfarer
Dothan, AL
Member since May 2010
12125 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 9:19 pm to
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I don't know if Smith will ever be great considering he isn't an elite recruiter and he isn't the greatest CB coach. Don't kid yourself into thinking he isn't solid and can get the job done as a last resort


having a good coach that can bring in elite talent is better than a great coach bringing in crap each year. The crap can be forged into great players but they are 3 year projects for the most part and the coach will be gone before that if he isn't producing.
Posted by AUStuck
Huntsville
Member since Aug 2013
26 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 9:24 pm to
Honestly with no dominant recruits and crap performance on the field all the D coaches were over paid.
This post was edited on 1/1/15 at 9:27 pm
Posted by Warfarer
Dothan, AL
Member since May 2010
12125 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 9:29 pm to
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Honestly with no dominant recruits and crap performance on the field all the D coaches were over paid.



I don't disagree with you at all. T-rob is a hell of a recruiter and if he does come to Auburn, don't expect us to be landing the elite guys even then. With Saban in Tuscaloosa, Fisher winning games in Tallahassee and UGA being above average we are fighting from our heels to get guys. The good news is that we have some young guys that can grow into good players and we don't need an elite defense to win a lot of games.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37706 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 9:31 pm to
We don't need to get all the dominant recruits, just a few key ones to fill holes.

Posted by diddydirtyAubie
Bozeman
Member since Dec 2010
39829 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 9:32 pm to
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We don't need to get all the dominant recruits


yes we do.
Posted by Warfarer
Dothan, AL
Member since May 2010
12125 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 9:33 pm to
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We don't need to get all the dominant recruits, just a few key ones to fill holes.



I absolutely agree with that. Landing a top notch JUCO corner this year would have done wonders for a defense next year and if there were ever any really good linebackers coming from JUCO that would be awesome too.
Posted by AUStuck
Huntsville
Member since Aug 2013
26 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 9:35 pm to
Anything that can stop the dreaded 3rd and long is a start. Lol
Posted by The Nino
Member since Jan 2010
21521 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 12:17 am to
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Muschamp should probably get the say on who his guys are if he is going to take all the heat/responsibity for the defense.
Yep. We don't want a Tony Franklin situation again. Need the coaches Boom wants
Posted by michaeldwde
N.C.
Member since Nov 2010
3186 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 12:20 am to
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Anything that can stop the dreaded 3rd and long is a start. Lol


Every. Damn. Time.

I got nauseous watching our third down D a few times this year.
Posted by auyushu
Surprise, AZ
Member since Jan 2011
8589 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 12:22 am to
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Yep. We don't want a Tony Franklin situation again. Need the coaches Boom wants





Which is not a situation we will ever have with Gus I would imagine. If there is anyone that knows how much is sucks to be an OC/DC and have your legs cut out from under you due to staff division it would be Gus after his experiences at Arky under Nutt (and to a lesser extent under Chizik at Auburn). Those are probably the major reasons for how adamant he is that the DC will handle his side of the ball.
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22454 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 12:23 am to
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I got nauseous watching our third down D a few times this year.


Me too. And on first downs, second downs and fourth downs.
Posted by michaeldwde
N.C.
Member since Nov 2010
3186 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 12:29 am to
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fourth downs.


I left the room on 4th downs; I didn't even need to see it.
Posted by AubieG
Nawf GA
Member since Aug 2013
1179 posts
Posted on 1/3/15 at 1:46 pm to
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UCF Knights 247 ?@Knights247 19m19 minutes ago
Sources: Florida has targeted UCF's Kirk Callahan for the Gators open DB job (VIP) LINK


So if its an open job then...T-Rob coming is pretty clear right??
Posted by AMM AU9893
Auburn, AL
Member since Feb 2011
13789 posts
Posted on 1/3/15 at 1:48 pm to
I hope T-Rob just drives from their bowl in Birmingham to Auburn after the game
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
46184 posts
Posted on 1/3/15 at 1:48 pm to
T-Rob has been a given for a while now. UF just has to end their bowl game
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
49999 posts
Posted on 1/3/15 at 1:50 pm to
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I hope T-Rob just drives from their bowl in Birmingham to Auburn after the game



fricking this. We need a Vernon Hargreaves so fricking bad
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