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Posted on 9/28/15 at 12:51 pm to DyeHardDylan
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The fact is that this was dealt with extremely unprofessionally from the beginning by Jay Jacobs. After Golloway's first season, Randall Dickey was moved from basketball to baseball (where he had no business being) to spy on Golloway and report back to Jacobs. And from what it sounds like with Jacobs "catching him in a lie", the athletics department was just looking for any reason at all to get rid of him. And I can promise it will not end well for us and we will have to pay some kind of settlement.
So what you're saying is that Jay Jacobs hired a guy for the sole purpose of spying on him, setting him up, and then firing him in the most embarrassing way possible?
Sweet jeebus you guys are fricking delusional.
Posted on 9/28/15 at 12:53 pm to DyeHardDylan
Let's think about this DHD, why would Sunny Golloway, an accomplished coach with CWS appearances at OU leave OU to come to the AU baseball dumpster fire? Not only do we have an average history, we have huge limitations in how we can provide scholarships/instate waivers compared to other schools.
SG by all accounts and reason was wearing out his welcome/run out of Norman. Think about just how bad of a guy you have to be to win at that level and still be hated
This was done by Jay Jacobs, the expectation is that it will be screwed up.
SG is not a coach you want at your school, think Bobby Petrino mold. He will win you games, but the cost is a pound of flesh from your program. This may have been a botched firing, but it is more because we are trying to fix the first mistake which was hiring Golloway.
SG by all accounts and reason was wearing out his welcome/run out of Norman. Think about just how bad of a guy you have to be to win at that level and still be hated
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extremely unprofessionally from the beginning by Jay Jacobs.
This was done by Jay Jacobs, the expectation is that it will be screwed up.
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the athletics department was just looking for any reason at all to get rid of him.
SG is not a coach you want at your school, think Bobby Petrino mold. He will win you games, but the cost is a pound of flesh from your program. This may have been a botched firing, but it is more because we are trying to fix the first mistake which was hiring Golloway.
Posted on 9/28/15 at 1:16 pm to allin2010
Brandon Marcello almost sounds like an attorney making a bullshite statement.
Posted on 9/28/15 at 1:50 pm to beatbammer
No, what I am saying is that Jay Jacobs has no idea how to run an athletics department. He has always gotten his buddies to micromanage every program, which is one of the many reasons Tuberville "resigned" in 2008, and why Chizik failed (Tim Jackson, Wayne Bolt were both buddies with Jacobs and micromanaged every aspect of the football program). Because Golloway was never part of the inner circle and was an outsider, he was immediately at odds with those who were. Instead of listening to the actual coaches and trusting them to do their jobs, Jacobs is easily swayed by the bitching of those in his inner circle. Just to be completely honest, all these accusations against Golloway sound completely ridiculous and there's no way any other AD would fire a coach for the same things. What's even more embarrassing than that is that we're trying to be cheap by saying there was cause, even though Jacobs will never probably reveal the reason. Golloway is a solid coach, but he was absolutely undermined from the beginning and our program is now involved in what will probably be a nasty lawsuit and we'll end up hiring a mid-tier coach. It's just not good for the program.
Posted on 9/28/15 at 1:55 pm to DyeHardDylan
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No, what I am saying is that Jay Jacobs has no idea how to run an athletics department. He has always gotten his buddies to micromanage every program, which is one of the many reasons Tuberville "resigned" in 2008, and why Chizik failed (Tim Jackson, Wayne Bolt were both buddies with Jacobs and micromanaged every aspect of the football program). Because Golloway was never part of the inner circle and was an outsider, he was immediately at odds with those who were. Instead of listening to the actual coaches and trusting them to do their jobs, Jacobs is easily swayed by the bitching of those in his inner circle. Just to be completely honest, all these accusations against Golloway sound completely ridiculous and there's no way any other AD would fire a coach for the same things. What's even more embarrassing than that is that we're trying to be cheap by saying there was cause, even though Jacobs will never probably reveal the reason. Golloway is a solid coach, but he was absolutely undermined from the beginning and our program is now involved in what will probably be a nasty lawsuit and we'll end up hiring a mid-tier coach. It's just not good for the program.
Can not argue with this at all.. I do think that CSG was a problem, but JJ never vetted him properly.
FIRE JJ
Posted on 9/28/15 at 2:07 pm to allin2010
So Golloway's lawyers plan to sue us and argue in court that he has a lifetime contract. That's awesome
Posted on 9/28/15 at 2:12 pm to BowlJackson
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So Golloway's lawyers plan to sue us and argue in court that he has a lifetime contract. That's awesome
I heard the letter his attorneys released to the press today on the radio. They took a shot at JJ hiring a "disgraced Bruce Pearl" and said they will ensure the true facts come out.
Looks like it's going to be a nasty divorce.
Posted on 9/28/15 at 2:18 pm to AUstar
His lawyer is pretty much just fighting for Galloway's reputation at this point. He knows Auburn can't go back and forward in the media about it so it's a good way to combat any early bad press. Bringing Bruce Pearl into it was a bad choice though. Say what you want about the guy and his NCAA infraction but the media loves him.
Posted on 9/28/15 at 2:20 pm to DyeHardDylan
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the athletics department was just looking for any reason at all to get rid of him.
Have you ever had a real job? Do you know what happens to people who are so abrasive and such a cancer to the organization? They watch your arse and look for a reason to shite can you. SG gave them a reason and AU and Jay Jacobs jumped on it. He has no one to blame but himself
Posted on 9/28/15 at 2:36 pm to DyeHardDylan
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No, what I am saying is that Jay Jacobs has no idea how to run an athletics department
Agree
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Because Golloway was never part of the inner circle and was an outsider, he was immediately at odds with those who were. Instead of listening to the actual coaches and trusting them to do their jobs
Disagree, Golloway had full backing due to his on the field record and Auburn being not great at baseball over the last 20 years.
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Jacobs is easily swayed by the bitching of those in his inner circle.
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Just to be completely honest, all these accusations against Golloway sound completely ridiculous and there's no way any other AD would fire a coach for the same things.
You couldn't be more wrong. Golloway was about to get fired from OK for the same type of shite we fired him for.
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What's even more embarrassing than that is that we're trying to be cheap by saying there was cause, even though Jacobs will never probably reveal the reason.
You and I will probably never find out everything. From what I've heard (4 on 1, berating of players publicly, unprofessional contact with a staff member) Golloway will disappear soon to keep everything from coming public.
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Golloway is a solid coach
He is an excellent baseball coach.
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but he was absolutely undermined from the beginning and our program is now involved in what will probably be a nasty lawsuit and we'll end up hiring a mid-tier coach.
I doubt a lawsuit ever happens. We will give him more than he deserves to go away. Hopefully we can get Thompson from MSU or Mendez from ASU. Both of which are extremely solid hires regardless of when we hire them.
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It's just not good for the program.
Golloway gone now is better for our program than him being here.
Posted on 9/28/15 at 2:47 pm to beatbammer
Yeah, the Jay Jacobs hate is out of control for some. Under his watch, AU has been to two National Championships, he's guided AU through the media shite storm of the Cam saga, has made stories like the NYT business administration program a non-issue, hired Bruce Pearl - with 5* basketball recruits coming to AU, hired a softball coach that has made school history, and in the NCAA's eyes has operated a clean athletic program.
I mean, sure, the guy made mistakes. But he has been learning on the job at AU, and that's always expected until you gain experience. He took a chance with SG, it didn't work out. Such is life. Overall though, AU has a much more well rounded athletic program than before he took control.
Two years ago, Jeff Long was considered the best in the business. Now Arkansas is stuck with Bert until 2018 unless they cough up almost $16 million. It could be much worse.
I mean, sure, the guy made mistakes. But he has been learning on the job at AU, and that's always expected until you gain experience. He took a chance with SG, it didn't work out. Such is life. Overall though, AU has a much more well rounded athletic program than before he took control.
Two years ago, Jeff Long was considered the best in the business. Now Arkansas is stuck with Bert until 2018 unless they cough up almost $16 million. It could be much worse.
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Posted on 9/28/15 at 2:48 pm to JamalSanders
We will pay him to go away and he will take the money because being litigious is one more bad thing to add to his resume.
If SG needs some PR to fix his image so someone will hire him.
If SG needs some PR to fix his image so someone will hire him.
Posted on 9/28/15 at 3:57 pm to DyeHardDylan
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No, what I am saying is that Jay Jacobs has no idea how to run an athletics department. He has always gotten his buddies to micromanage every program, which is one of the many reasons Tuberville "resigned" in 2008, and why Chizik failed (Tim Jackson, Wayne Bolt were both buddies with Jacobs and micromanaged every aspect of the football program). Because Golloway was never part of the inner circle and was an outsider, he was immediately at odds with those who were. Instead of listening to the actual coaches and trusting them to do their jobs, Jacobs is easily swayed by the bitching of those in his inner circle. Just to be completely honest, all these accusations against Golloway sound completely ridiculous and there's no way any other AD would fire a coach for the same things. What's even more embarrassing than that is that we're trying to be cheap by saying there was cause, even though Jacobs will never probably reveal the reason. Golloway is a solid coach, but he was absolutely undermined from the beginning and our program is now involved in what will probably be a nasty lawsuit and we'll end up hiring a mid-tier coach. It's just not good for the program.
Posted on 9/28/15 at 4:18 pm to AUbagman
totally agree with this.
Someone in power is always going to have their haters, detractors, and people who may have been stepped on along the way, but JJ has done a lot of good things for this program. How anyone can expect perfection in the pressure filled arena as college football now a days is not seeing straight.
It's the same with Malzahn. Now there are those who want him gone, or thinks he suddenly doesnt know how to coach QBs, and run an offense. It's way too early to look at his resume, and for now let's see if we can improve for the rest of the year, and see this thing turned around.
Someone in power is always going to have their haters, detractors, and people who may have been stepped on along the way, but JJ has done a lot of good things for this program. How anyone can expect perfection in the pressure filled arena as college football now a days is not seeing straight.
It's the same with Malzahn. Now there are those who want him gone, or thinks he suddenly doesnt know how to coach QBs, and run an offense. It's way too early to look at his resume, and for now let's see if we can improve for the rest of the year, and see this thing turned around.
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