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re: Back to the drawing board for AU baseball

Posted on 9/27/15 at 10:31 pm to
Posted by DyeHardDylan
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Posted on 9/27/15 at 10:31 pm to
Honestly doesn't sound like a big deal to me. Golloway was undermined from the start by Jay Jacobs' goons trying to stir up trouble like they have with every single program in the athletics department.
This post was edited on 9/27/15 at 10:35 pm
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 9/27/15 at 11:26 pm to
Are you related to Galloway some how?



I don't know the guy personally, but I've never heard anything good about the guy.
Posted by DyeHardDylan
Member since Nov 2011
7730 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 11:32 pm to
I've never met him in my life, but it is frustrating to see the baseball program finally trending upward and then we fire him because our AD is more interested in gotcha moments and undermining coaches than doing his job. Did you know that an assistant coach from Tony Barbee's BASKETBALL staff was given a completely new position in the baseball program with the sole purpose of telling Golloway how to do his job?
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 11:34 pm to
Potentially having our pitchers ruled ineligible isn't a big deal?? GTFO

Duval is a bitch for snitching, and Golloway is a douche for not paying him. If caught that infraction would frick us for however long those pitchers were ruled out, so yeah, that's a big deal.
Posted by m45auburn
Auburn
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 9/27/15 at 11:43 pm to
He caught tPOS Galloway in the middle of a major NCAA rules violation, what else was he going to do. He shouldn't have hired him in the first place. I wish Jacobs would get fired, but he made the only call here.
Posted by HDAU
Member since Nov 2014
1569 posts
Posted on 9/28/15 at 8:22 am to
quote:

I have heard that Jacobs burned bridges with Dunn and he is not an option.


You have bad information.
Posted by Rig
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 9/28/15 at 8:52 am to
That wasn't the only thing brought to Jacobs. Golloway promised a kid a 4 year scholarship. When he got to campus he got hurt and Golloway tried to run him off and make him quit so he could get the scholarship he promised back. The player recorded the phone conversation of Golloway and also sent that to Jacobs as well.
Posted by TheJones
Member since Nov 2009
33321 posts
Posted on 9/28/15 at 9:13 am to
I'm not a big fan of Joe Simpson as an announcer. I just don't like his style and I think he doesn't contrast with Caray very well but I respect him enormously as a person.

He had this to say about Galloway when Auburn hired him away from Oklahoma:

quote:

Joe Simpson, an All-America outfielder at OU under legendary former Sooners coach Enos Semore, didn't hold back when contacted by telephone Tuesday afternoon.

“I'm so thrilled that he's gone that they could hire a basset hound and it would be an improvement,” said Simpson, an Atlanta Braves broadcaster the past two decades.

“I haven't had anything to do with the program since near the end of the Larry Cochell era. I didn't want to have anything to do with it as long as Sunny Golloway was the head coach because I think he's a sorry individual. I think he's a bad guy. I want to thank Auburn University for taking him off our hands and getting him out of Norman.”


That's a tough thing to say about anyone to a newspaper ESPECIALLY when you're in the business of being a broadcaster.
Posted by Rig
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Posted on 9/28/15 at 9:19 am to
It was no secret that he had red flags all over him when Jacobs hired him away from Oklahoma. I remember reading that from Joe Simpson and the homer in me wanted to believe he and SG just had something personal.. but now it really does ring true.

If you have built a bad reputation over 9 years of work and within 3 years of your new job you've confirmed that reputation among a multitude of people then it's probably the right move to cut ties.
Posted by TheJones
Member since Nov 2009
33321 posts
Posted on 9/28/15 at 9:20 am to
Fundamentally I think he's a good coach. If you subtract the fact that he's an insufferable a-hole then it would be impossible to fire the guy.
Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
18151 posts
Posted on 9/28/15 at 9:35 am to
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uote:
Aight. So heres what happened to put the nail in the coffin for CSG. Soctt Duval runs the summer Auburn baseball camp for high school kids. He is in charge of the whole thing. Coach Jenkins was a volunteer to help the camp. On the last day of the camp Sonny went out there told Scott that it was the worst camp that he'd ever seen in his life and that Scott wasn't going to get paid for it. He said the same thing to coach Jenkins. And they never got paid like they were supposed to. A couple weeks later some pitchers were throwing bullpen with coaches, which is a NCAA infraction and some of our pitchers could get ruled ineligible for it. Coach Duval sees this going on and snaps a couple of pictures and videos. He took the pictures to Jacobs. Jacobs called Sonny into his office and asked him if the pitchers were throwing during the summer illegally. Sonny says no then Jacob shows him the videos, catching Sonny in a lie. Duval had been treated as poorly as some of the players and had enough of CSG's bs.


I had heard (good source) that the problem was he was forcing injured players to pitch when told by training staff that they were not ready (tapes probable showed this also) and was not an NCAA concern. I think I got what Auburn wanted folks to hear. PAM indicated this was a compliance issue, so I tend to believe your account of the matter.

ETA: Went to the Tread on TOS you referred to and seems it was somewhat debunked.

) The player you keep referring to is a former player of mine. I have a real hard time believing that he is telling you this info, while he and his dad are saying the exact opposite.
2) Lying to your boss, especially when boss has video/picture proof, is grounds for dismissal at any job. Secondary violation or not.


Another Poster:
I have known Scott since 1975 and we are close friends. Even if he may have been shafted on a camp he is very loyal to the people he works for and would not behave as described. He says the premise of this OP is false. It is one thing if Jay or Brian report this, it something totally separate when some random dude with a keyboard spouts off.
This post was edited on 9/28/15 at 9:59 am
Posted by JamalSanders
On a boat
Member since Jul 2015
12135 posts
Posted on 9/28/15 at 9:41 am to
He got fired for a multitude of reasons, but Auburn is better off without him. Sunny is a hell of a good baseball coach and a tPOS human being. He was told time and again to quit being such a prick and he didn't stop. He deserved to be fired and I hope that no one else will ever hire him to coach again.

People also forget that he reached out to Auburn because he was on the hotseat in Oklahoma due to him being a tPOS.
Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
18151 posts
Posted on 9/28/15 at 11:23 am to
JJ better have the evidence.

As first reported by Brandon Marcello of AL.com:

"For Coach Sunny Golloway to be fired by Auburn is outrageous. The allegations against him are pretexttual. Coach Golloway has made no mistakes. If some, who want him gone, say mistakes were made, they are the mistakes of others who have conspired to make him the victim. If it is necessary in the coming days to air these matters, folks from Jay Jacobs on down -- but not Sunny Golloway -- will be the ones wishing Auburn had handled this differently.

"This is a program that hired a disgraced Bruce Pearl, yet now seeks to make a good man and good coach, who is nothing but a winner, the fall guy.

Sunny Golloway is not only a winner; he's a fighter. He has four years left on his contract. There are good arguments, which we are prepared to test in court, that he actually has a lifetime contract. If serious offers of severance are not soon forthcoming, we will be fighting this matter in some forum, quite visibly, as long as it takes to redeem Coach Golloway's good name and to provide just compensation for him and his family
Posted by AUCatfish
How are yah now?
Member since Oct 2007
13995 posts
Posted on 9/28/15 at 11:36 am to
That's a statement from his, lawyer, what did you expect him to say? Just trying to get money out of the university.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42557 posts
Posted on 9/28/15 at 11:39 am to
I think it was a mistake to fire him. Most of you are good with winning a few games in the regular season, only to fail in the playoffs. We'll get some guy from a directional school, only to be looking for a new coach in five years. The only real evidence we have is from players he kicked off the team. So what? Baseball parents are the worst. They bitch when their kid doesn't play. '97 was the last year we went to the CWS. Better pull the tapes out, because we won't be going any time soon.
Posted by AA7
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2009
26681 posts
Posted on 9/28/15 at 11:40 am to
That statement was to be expected. He just wants his buyout or some form of hush money.
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
22647 posts
Posted on 9/28/15 at 11:42 am to
Dragging Bruce's name into his mess. frick him.
Posted by Rig
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Posted on 9/28/15 at 11:47 am to
quote:

The only real evidence we have is from players he kicked off the team.
Sometimes (and this is probably hard for you to believe) there's more evidence than what is presented to the public. And for the record, most of the issues that have been stated in this thread have come from current players and current director of baseball operations and a long time staff member.

So sit down and stop. This was what's best for Auburn
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42557 posts
Posted on 9/28/15 at 12:01 pm to
I won't stop. This is a message board. (It maybe hard for you to believe) but it's purpose is for people to express views. If you have a hard time with other view points, I suggest you find another outlet for your posting experience.
Posted by DyeHardDylan
Member since Nov 2011
7730 posts
Posted on 9/28/15 at 12:12 pm to
The fact is that this was dealt with extremely unprofessionally from the beginning by Jay Jacobs. After Golloway's first season, Randall Dickey was moved from basketball to baseball (where he had no business being) to spy on Golloway and report back to Jacobs. And from what it sounds like with Jacobs "catching him in a lie", the athletics department was just looking for any reason at all to get rid of him. And I can promise it will not end well for us and we will have to pay some kind of settlement.
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