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re: Auburn opens as a 10 point favorite

Posted on 9/24/17 at 9:10 pm to
Posted by Hussss
Living the Dream
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Posted on 9/24/17 at 9:10 pm to
Dogs cover way more than favorites in Prime Time games. Oddsmakers shade the lines more because there is more action on Prime Time games most people get to see. Your average bettor plays the favorites and overs on the totals.

Not saying State covers here, just that there is better than a 50/50 chance they do. I've been doing this a long time.
This post was edited on 9/24/17 at 9:23 pm
Posted by warau
Member since Nov 2010
2576 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 9:24 pm to
Opened at nine. Frick your tweet.
Posted by borotiger
Murfreesboro Tennessee
Member since Jan 2004
10527 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 9:39 pm to
quote:

Opened at nine. Frick your tweet.


Actually, your bookie determines the line. Mine gave me 9.5.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28286 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 9:40 pm to
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I agree... was thinking it would open around 7.5.


seems about right. Vegas thinks Auburn is a TD better on a neutral field.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28286 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 9:43 pm to
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Opened at 9 genius


ummmmm. line 189-190
Posted by Hussss
Living the Dream
Member since Oct 2016
6742 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 9:46 pm to
Not how it works. The oddsmakers think that the general public thinks they are 7 points better on a neutral field. It's nothing more than trying to even out a public consensus. The sharps and wiseguys that do this for a living get first crack at the lines right when they come out before the public gets to see them. The limits are set low to 500-1k per bet at this time but it enables the books to really sharpen the lines up. The smart money then watches throughout the week how it moves and when they really start seeing value they jump in for a big bet for at least 10k up to 100k (10 dimes to 100 dimes).

It's not what the books think, but what they think that the public thinks. If a game ever looks too good to be true to you, take the other side. You will profit way more than you lose I promise you. Technology has given them huge psychological advances. Not every favorite should be favored. It's up to you to find the value. No different than investing.
This post was edited on 9/24/17 at 9:52 pm
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28286 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:10 pm to
quote:

Not how it works. The oddsmakers think that the general public thinks they are 7 points better on a neutral field.


Thanks for the tutorial.

I understand how lines work. Somebody very close to me, maybe me, took hundreds and hundreds of calls every Saturday, Sunday, and Monday night for over 20 years......if you get my drift.

ETA for the old timers....Jim Feist Offshore used to be the best place to get live lines, before he shut that site down.
This post was edited on 9/24/17 at 10:24 pm
Posted by Hussss
Living the Dream
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Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:14 pm to
What I'm referring to is NOT local bookie, local man shite but rather how they originate. Locals have to adjust using nobody's logic but their OWN.
This post was edited on 9/24/17 at 10:16 pm
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28286 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:18 pm to
I understand how vegas makes their lines.

Saturday football is not the Super Bowl. They know it's impossible to get even money on Saturday games. Vegas makes the best lines they possibly can for Saturday games. Vegas gives 3 points for being at home. Vegas set the Auburn line at 9.5-10. Vegas thinks we are a TD better than State on a neutral field.

Sure, there are WTF? lines every Saturday on some games. You see them every now and then for Sunday games too. Some of those they dupe the public, other times the public dupes them.

ETA at the end of the day..........most bettors are losers over the course of the season. The more they win, the more they bet. The more they lose, they bet even bigger.
This post was edited on 9/24/17 at 10:22 pm
Posted by AUTiger45
The Ham
Member since Oct 2013
4043 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:26 pm to
quote:

Seems a bit high to me


that was my initial reaction but after blowing it so bad on the over/under for missouri I figure they probably have it pretty close to right
Posted by Hussss
Living the Dream
Member since Oct 2016
6742 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:29 pm to
I'm starting to think the exact same thing since I see so many here saying this line is too high.


I heard the exact same thing right before 56-3
This post was edited on 9/24/17 at 10:33 pm
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79143 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:47 pm to
it's such bullshite that UGA got what will probably be MSU's worst performance of the season

I'm sure they'll be clicking when they play us
Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
18151 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 6:02 am to
I would think must of the money was on the under last week. How did that work out for the folks that thought that was easy money?

I thought the line would be 7, so this is not that shocking.
Posted by AuburnTigers
Member since Aug 2013
6946 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 9:01 am to
Auburn by 21
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22454 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 10:21 am to
quote:

Vegas loves our defense


It is so great loving AU defense. Quite a few years in the desert, nice to be out of it.
Posted by AUbagman
LA
Member since Jun 2014
10566 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 10:24 am to
It isn't high. AU will dominate on defense. MSU will not be able to run the ball.
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
17282 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 4:03 pm to
quote:

MSU will not be able to run the ball
This.

Was looking at stats from LSU-MSU 2015 when Steele was their DC - Mullen abandoned the run in the second half because it wasn't working, but had Dak's passing to get them back in the game late. Last year Fitz's running was the only thing they had through the first 3 quarters, and it was far from enough to keep them in the game.

Feeling better about this one after Saturday. Thought they'd give UGa more of a game. They are much better on defense than they were last year, but I think we have enough on offense to give them problems.
This post was edited on 9/25/17 at 4:04 pm
Posted by Gusoline
Jacksonville, NC
Member since Dec 2013
7627 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 6:56 pm to
memebr when i ranted last week about the over of 60 and vegas always getting their money, knowing people would bet the under?

vegas dumb AF for this one. bet ST, we win by 3-7
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