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re: Auburn, Alabama, require vaccination all employees.
Posted on 10/23/21 at 1:47 pm to Tigerman97
Posted on 10/23/21 at 1:47 pm to Tigerman97
It’s absolutely true, you guys just believe up is down.
Looking at statistics alone shows it’s not needed for most people.
Imagine having a health pandemic that’s so bad they’re willing to fire 1/3 health workers to “save lives”. Lol.
You smooth brained biden voters are the reason this country is falling apart and most of us see through your hypocrisy and lies. Your heroes may control the media and paint it up perfect for you to feel all warm and fuzzy but it’s not reality.
Add to it that with the vax you still spread it and catch it. Pls just wake up and ask what’s the point then? Not even getting into the vastly underreported side effects.
Quit pushing your ideas (and useless drugs) on people who disagree and cut ties with that satanic scum of a party. This is coming from someone who has never considered themselves as republican. The middle is gone because of the type of lunacy we see here in the OP and people are getting fed up. I’ve already had the cough also, I did play “Russian roulette” JFL with my 99.89999% rate of survival though.
Looking at statistics alone shows it’s not needed for most people.
Imagine having a health pandemic that’s so bad they’re willing to fire 1/3 health workers to “save lives”. Lol.
You smooth brained biden voters are the reason this country is falling apart and most of us see through your hypocrisy and lies. Your heroes may control the media and paint it up perfect for you to feel all warm and fuzzy but it’s not reality.
Add to it that with the vax you still spread it and catch it. Pls just wake up and ask what’s the point then? Not even getting into the vastly underreported side effects.
Quit pushing your ideas (and useless drugs) on people who disagree and cut ties with that satanic scum of a party. This is coming from someone who has never considered themselves as republican. The middle is gone because of the type of lunacy we see here in the OP and people are getting fed up. I’ve already had the cough also, I did play “Russian roulette” JFL with my 99.89999% rate of survival though.
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Posted on 10/23/21 at 1:53 pm to Rhino5
It’s all about compliance. Today it’s just a shot (that may or may not kill you), 5 years from now once they have all their sheep being good boys it’s chip time.
Breaking news on CNN “why getting a chip surgically implanted in you so we can control your feelings is actually a good thing experts say”
Breaking news on CNN “why getting a chip surgically implanted in you so we can control your feelings is actually a good thing experts say”
Posted on 10/23/21 at 1:58 pm to 88TIger
And with such a massive federal and industry commitment, it'll take really-dire results to even begin (or suggest) any negative feedback.
Plus a mandate will ratchet things up even more, so we've now entered double catch-22 time.
Plus a mandate will ratchet things up even more, so we've now entered double catch-22 time.
Posted on 10/23/21 at 1:58 pm to Tigers of War
Man somewhere I think we have had this conversation before
Just can’t remember.
Just can’t remember.
Posted on 10/23/21 at 7:29 pm to Tigers of War
I am very pro vaccine due to the overwhelming science that it is effective in reducing transmission and death/hospitalization as an outcome, but this thread shows why I am not pro mandate. It just works to force anti-vax folks ever further from getting it voluntarily.
I am also sympathetic to the government overreach argument. It's the same reason it annoys me the drinking age is 21 just to ensure states can get federal dollars.
I am also sympathetic to the government overreach argument. It's the same reason it annoys me the drinking age is 21 just to ensure states can get federal dollars.
Posted on 10/23/21 at 7:40 pm to Dirtman16
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It just works to force anti-vax folks ever further from getting it voluntarily.
Perhaps, but at this point if they don't have it they probably weren't changing course anyways.
There's a lot of non political people I know that are going to get it now who fell into the "eh don't really need it and don't feel like bothering "
My biggest fear is the hyper politicization of this vaccine will extend into our standard vaccine regime like polio, measles etc. In general, Vaccines are one of the the true miracle medical breakthroughs, hope we don't forget thay
This post was edited on 10/23/21 at 7:43 pm
Posted on 10/23/21 at 7:58 pm to Tigers of War
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It’s absolutely true, you guys just believe up is down.
Looking at statistics alone shows it’s not needed for most people.
Imagine having a health pandemic that’s so bad they’re willing to fire 1/3 health workers to “save lives”. Lol.
You smooth brained biden voters are the reason this country is falling apart and most of us see through your hypocrisy and lies. Your heroes may control the media and paint it up perfect for you to feel all warm and fuzzy but it’s not reality.
Add to it that with the vax you still spread it and catch it. Pls just wake up and ask what’s the point then? Not even getting into the vastly underreported side effects.
Quit pushing your ideas (and useless drugs) on people who disagree and cut ties with that satanic scum of a party. This is coming from someone who has never considered themselves as republican. The middle is gone because of the type of lunacy we see here in the OP and people are getting fed up. I’ve already had the cough also, I did play “Russian roulette” JFL with my 99.89999% rate of survival though.
You should fire people who violate policy. The problem with America is Capitalism will always win out...I'm ok with that. Maybe you aren't.
There is so much dumb in your post I don't have time to pick it apart. I've seen the survival rate misquoted in this thread 3 times...including yours.
If you use the correct survival rate pre vaccine then it correlates to about 13 million dead Americans. I am glad you survived 13 million dead is a price I'm not willing to pay...so thankfully a vaccine was created after more than 12 years of research that brings that number down...below 100k based on the US population at 330,000,000. (based on data from June-August concerning breakthrough infections) Hmm...facts. What a concept. Do the research to back up the numbers listed. The info is available.
Also, the government doesn't need to insert chips in people. They can monitor our phones. Heck, Facebook and Google know more about you than you know about you.
I've been out of pocket today but looking forward to reading this thread from last night. It did not disappoint.
This post was edited on 10/23/21 at 8:02 pm
Posted on 10/23/21 at 8:11 pm to Tigerman97
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If you use the correct survival rate pre vaccine then it correlates to about 13 million dead Americans. I am glad you survived 13 million dead is a price I'm not willing to pay...so thankfully a vaccine was created after more than 12 years of research that brings that number down...below 100k based on the US population at 330,000,000. (based on data from June-August concerning breakthrough infections) Hmm...facts. What a concept. Do the research to back up the numbers listed. The info is available.
Posted on 10/23/21 at 9:13 pm to RandySavage
Posted on 10/25/21 at 9:23 am to alpinetiger
I'm just going to tell you outright, I've known 4 Anti-Covid-Vaxers due to a extreme political reason who have died due to their anti-vax belief. Is that belief due to political leaning a smart belief for your health or is your health/life more important. One of these lost a parent to cancer a few years back, and then their father to this
The main thing to get from my post is tell me why you are letting your political belief determine your body's health?
We've all grown up in an era where you were given vaccines for diseases that were pretty much vanquished by the vaccines we were given. Heck I remember a few years back where the same people who were anti-vaxx because of all of the Oregon pre-Covid anti-vaxx were pro-vaxx instead of anti-vaxx then. In other words, politics shouldn't determine your health either way you lean or moderate like myself.
The main thing to get from my post is tell me why you are letting your political belief determine your body's health?
We've all grown up in an era where you were given vaccines for diseases that were pretty much vanquished by the vaccines we were given. Heck I remember a few years back where the same people who were anti-vaxx because of all of the Oregon pre-Covid anti-vaxx were pro-vaxx instead of anti-vaxx then. In other words, politics shouldn't determine your health either way you lean or moderate like myself.
Posted on 10/25/21 at 9:43 am to TemperdTiger
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We've all grown up in an era where you were given vaccines for diseases that were pretty much vanquished by the vaccines we were given.
So, basically nothing like the current vaccine? Got it.
Posted on 10/25/21 at 9:48 am to Tigerman97
quote:We are experiencing fascism, not Capitalism atm. Wake the frick up B
The problem with America is Capitalism will always win out
Posted on 10/25/21 at 9:49 am to GoCrazyAuburn
Yeah, these vaccines have way more research than those did when they were first deployed. mRNA has been in development for many years before covid-19 for other Covid variants. So technically you are right, but for the wrong reason.
Posted on 10/25/21 at 9:51 am to TemperdTiger
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Yeah, these vaccines have way more research than those did when they were first deployed. mRNA has been in development for many years before covid-19 for other Covid variants. So technically you are right, but for the wrong reason.
Tell me you don’t know anything about those vaccines and why Covid doesn’t work like those diseases, without telling me you know nothing about those vaccines and how Covid doesn’t work like those diseases.
Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:19 am to GoCrazyAuburn
Of course it doesn't work like those diseases, it is it's own disease, but it can be prevented just like those diseases. mRNA vaccines are just a way to produce a vaccine w/o the long process of those other vaccines but it works just like those vaccines. It's been studied for over 30 years. LINK
In any case Harsin has the vaccine, he just doesn't care to be public about it I read from some inside source, he doesn't think it's everyone's business.
I'm just telling you, you can stand on the rock if you want, but you can also end up with the consequences if that rock crumbles like I've seen it to close friends with different beliefs.
Here's a timeline for polio if you care to look at that either. I'm sure glad I wasn't a kid like my parent's were in this time, their summer was stuck at home avoiding pools due to polio, a quick shot would've been nice for them.
LINK
Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:53 am to TemperdTiger
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it works just like those vaccines
Your ignorance is showing.
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I'm just telling you, you can stand on the rock if you want, but you can also end up with the consequences if that rock crumbles like I've seen it to close friends with different beliefs.
Platitudes.
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Here's a timeline for polio if you care to look at that either. I'm sure glad I wasn't a kid like my parent's were in this time, their summer was stuck at home avoiding pools due to polio, a quick shot would've been nice for them.
More ignorance. You're welcome to just flat out say you don't know why comparing covid to this makes absolutely no sense.
Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:54 am to allin2010
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Auburn, Alabama, require vaccination all employees
Harsin gone.
Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:57 am to TemperdTiger
Love how you and others compare this Covid shot to other vaccines. They are different. I hear you and others touting mRNA and how it has been around for 30 years. However, if it was so safe then it would have been approved already. So when was the first mRNA vax approved and by whom? If you don't know it was only last year and by Germany. These are still experimental and haven't been through the testing like other vaccines. Oh and can you really call it a vax if I can still get covid after taking the shot? Seriously? Rare for other vaccines but not with this one. How about being honest? And about Harsin...it isn't anybody's business whether he has taken the vaccine or not. Also these coaches may get fired for not taking it and getting their entire contract paid if they are let go over the vax...
Posted on 10/25/21 at 11:01 am to GoCrazyAuburn
my ignorance is showing huh, right...I'm just not letting my political belief cloud my health judgement.
This post was edited on 10/25/21 at 11:05 am
Posted on 10/25/21 at 11:14 am to ChexMix
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We are experiencing fascism, not Capitalism atm.
I get tired of having to explain this to people. The gov't is using large corporations to forcibly vaccinate people. It's the very definition of fascism.
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