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Posted on 6/30/15 at 9:32 am to ellitor
Posted on 6/30/15 at 9:32 am to ellitor
Yea, he is at least as mobile as Queen is. Not as big though. A good comparison mobility wise would be Barrett Trotter. Better passer, but they would probably be comparable athletically speaking.
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Posted on 6/30/15 at 12:57 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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However, it wasn't till I saw this bigger photo that I realized he was flipping everyone off.
Its what makes that pic MONEY.
Posted on 6/30/15 at 2:41 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
I don't like Trotter personally but as a FB player he was better his last year than he gets credit.
We had an OL that replaced 4/5 OL with a True FR C, Chad
Slade, True FR tackle, and AJ Greene. Our top WR was perpetually with a concussion. Our HUNH was handcuffed to our defensive inadequacies
I don't think we have a shot of doing anything special with Trotter at QB, but the guy is solid in an off year if given decent pieces.
We had an OL that replaced 4/5 OL with a True FR C, Chad
Slade, True FR tackle, and AJ Greene. Our top WR was perpetually with a concussion. Our HUNH was handcuffed to our defensive inadequacies I don't think we have a shot of doing anything special with Trotter at QB, but the guy is solid in an off year if given decent pieces.
This post was edited on 6/30/15 at 2:42 pm
Posted on 6/30/15 at 3:19 pm to GenesChin
quote:Brandon Moseley played RT/LT with AJ Greene. We didn't start a TFR tackle until 2012.
We had an OL that replaced 4/5 OL with a True FR C, Chad Slade, True FR tackle, and AJ Greene.
John Sullen was the other G.
Posted on 6/30/15 at 3:21 pm to joeyb147
You're right. Those miserable eyars are blending together.
Sullen, Greene, Slade + trueFR OC is a horrible 4/5 though
Sullen, Greene, Slade + trueFR OC is a horrible 4/5 though
Posted on 6/30/15 at 3:26 pm to GenesChin
quote:Thx Jeff
Sullen, Greene, Slade + trueFR OC is a horrible 4/5 though
Posted on 6/30/15 at 3:47 pm to GenesChin
Stop it! Now I have to go get my mind Sunshine Spotless again!
Eternal my arse...
Eternal my arse...
Posted on 6/30/15 at 3:51 pm to joeyb147
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Thx Jeff
While I don't think Chizik/Grimes/Luper did a good job of roster management of OL, the 2011 OL was hard for them to avoid.
SR - 2008= Tubz Year
JR - 2009=Andre Harris 3* , John Sullen 3*
SO - 2010= Shon Coleman 5* OT, Rozell Gayden 4* JUCO OT, Eric Mack 4*, Chad Slade 3*, Ed Christian 3*
2009 was the class Chizik threw together last minute when he was hired
2010- Cancer, Injury->Transfer, Bust, Bust, Injuries
I would have expected to have at least 1/5 guys contribute from a class of 5*, 4*/5*, 4*, 3*,3*
This post was edited on 6/30/15 at 3:53 pm
Posted on 6/30/15 at 4:54 pm to GenesChin
quote:I highly disagree.
the 2011 OL was hard for them to avoid.
That OL was complete garbage. The worst OL I've ever seen in Auburn uniforms (well, they performed about the same as the 2012 OL, Thx again Jeff). This was year three for these coaches. Inexcusable for them to be that bad.
They gave up a sack every 9.1 pass attempts. The worst in the SEC. Worse than Kentucky at 9.6. Worse than two win Ole Miss at 10.1.
And you're trying to tell me that these coaches couldn't avoid putting out a line worse than fricking Ole Miss who went 2-10? GTFO.
Posted on 6/30/15 at 5:13 pm to joeyb147
Unless you are suggesting we start freshman (5* Westerman, 4* GRob, Dismukes), where should these players come from? 08 from Tubz contribute no members.
I give them a pass on 09 class as Tubs didn't do much leg work and they had less than 2 months to patch that together
So that basically gives 0 starters from JR/SR class
2010 class was what we had to rely on and as I said, 3/5 injuries and 2 were busts
If say Coleman came in healthy started at RT and Eric Mack was a solid OG/OC, our OL goes from one of worst in AU history to decent
I give them a pass on 09 class as Tubs didn't do much leg work and they had less than 2 months to patch that together
So that basically gives 0 starters from JR/SR class
2010 class was what we had to rely on and as I said, 3/5 injuries and 2 were busts
If say Coleman came in healthy started at RT and Eric Mack was a solid OG/OC, our OL goes from one of worst in AU history to decent
This post was edited on 6/30/15 at 5:25 pm
Posted on 6/30/15 at 5:20 pm to GenesChin
If Mack was solid/Avg and Coleman played like he is/expected to now, this OL wouldn't be good but not horrific
LT- Mosley
LG- Greene
OC- Dismukes
RG- Mack
RT- Coleman
I agree we should have recruited JUCOs since we had these issues but spring before 2010 season we signed 5 OL, had Brandon Mosley plus projected RT AJ Greene.
Who would have guessed that only 1/7 of those OL was above dumpster fire quality?
LT- Mosley
LG- Greene
OC- Dismukes
RG- Mack
RT- Coleman
I agree we should have recruited JUCOs since we had these issues but spring before 2010 season we signed 5 OL, had Brandon Mosley plus projected RT AJ Greene.
Who would have guessed that only 1/7 of those OL was above dumpster fire quality?
Posted on 6/30/15 at 6:04 pm to GenesChin
You can spin this as much as you want and it changes nothing.
Fact: signing only 2 projects in 09 was a frick up because of Tubs 07 & 08 classes. We waste spots on NQs like Paige, Jackson, James, Lanier, then we sure as hell had room to find OL in this class.
Fact: the line was dogshit because of WHO they signed. Period. No matter how you wanna try and spin this as it wasn't their fault. Sullen, Harris, Slade and Tunde were projects. Mack had issues since the time he was committed to USCe and they warned us. That leaves Coleman, Christian, and 2 JUCOs.
Fact: there will be busts and injuries in football. For every single position. To think the 3 or so highly talented players who aren't projects are going to come in and all live up to their potential is naive at best and just plain retarded at worst.
If you really wanna go down this route, just say that the whole 2012 season wasn't the coaches fault. Players were busts (looking at you Frazier), not the coaches fault. Kenneth Carter was paper soft, not the coaches fault. Jake Holland having to start at MLB, not the coaches fault. Starting Avery Young and Pat Miller at RT, not the coaches fault.
Fact: signing only 2 projects in 09 was a frick up because of Tubs 07 & 08 classes. We waste spots on NQs like Paige, Jackson, James, Lanier, then we sure as hell had room to find OL in this class.
Fact: the line was dogshit because of WHO they signed. Period. No matter how you wanna try and spin this as it wasn't their fault. Sullen, Harris, Slade and Tunde were projects. Mack had issues since the time he was committed to USCe and they warned us. That leaves Coleman, Christian, and 2 JUCOs.
Fact: there will be busts and injuries in football. For every single position. To think the 3 or so highly talented players who aren't projects are going to come in and all live up to their potential is naive at best and just plain retarded at worst.
If you really wanna go down this route, just say that the whole 2012 season wasn't the coaches fault. Players were busts (looking at you Frazier), not the coaches fault. Kenneth Carter was paper soft, not the coaches fault. Jake Holland having to start at MLB, not the coaches fault. Starting Avery Young and Pat Miller at RT, not the coaches fault.
Posted on 6/30/15 at 7:46 pm to joeyb147
Posted on 6/30/15 at 10:23 pm to Spiggly
There's possibly another AU-Meeechigan battle brewing. High 4* OT Landon Dickerson told 247 AU is definitely in his top 5 and has set an OV for the Iron Bowl. That and a Michigan OV in September is all he has set up so far.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 7:27 am to joeyb147
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signing only 2 projects in 09 was a frick up because of Tubs 07 & 08 classes.
Chizik got hired going into the dead period and his staff had 1 month in January to find kids to sign. I agree they should have taken a lot more chances on kids but with one month it is hard to both find and recruit the one of the known hardest positions to evaluate.
Also, remember that nearly every coach on staff was moving from schools outside the South. Wasn't like they had knowledge or insight into the kids likely to want to come to AU from the South
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the line was dog shite because of WHO they signed
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there will be busts and injuries in football
I don't disagree, but we didn't get one serviceable OL from two classes of 5*s, two 4*, five 3*s. While bad coaching probably plays a huge role, to go 0/8 on OL that are 3* plus is absurd even for mediocre coaches.
I believe the 2012 season team is the true reflection of how bad the coaches were. We almost were assured a below average to bad OL no matter what given the context of our 09 class + how 2010 was an 0fer. In contrast, 2012 gave us enough time that there isn't an excuse to strikeout that much just by the law of large numbers
Posted on 7/1/15 at 7:31 am to joeyb147
My argument is that I think there are very few coaches out there that could have redeemed out OL situation in 2011 to be anything better than 8-9 in SEC. Ya, Grimes & company sucked and definitely contributed to just how bad they were. Just look at JB Grimes, who i think is a pretty solid and good OL coach, I don't think in the same position that JB would have fielded a noticeably superior OL. So if I wouldn't expect that from the good coaches, I'm not going to trash someone who I know isn't good.
2012? Grimes & Chizik & the rest deserve to eat a bag of sh**. There is no excuse for fielding that type of team after being at a school for 3 years
2012? Grimes & Chizik & the rest deserve to eat a bag of sh**. There is no excuse for fielding that type of team after being at a school for 3 years
This post was edited on 7/1/15 at 7:32 am
Posted on 7/1/15 at 7:52 am to GenesChin
2012? For the life of me I just cannot remember us playing that year...
Posted on 7/1/15 at 7:59 am to higgs_boson
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2012? For the life of me I just cannot remember us playing that year...
We didn't, these fools are making up stuff.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 8:10 am to higgs_boson
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2012? For the life of me I just cannot remember us playing that year...
There is a good argument that we didn't play football that year. I mean, we walked on the field, people went to games but Auburn didn't play football.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 8:11 am to AU4real35
What a shite show that was.
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