re: 2015 NSD Thread: BOOOOOOMMM!!! We done?

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While logic dictates that's how they should be ranked, it's not. The rankings are based on pro projected draftability and none of the sites make no bones about it.

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Ellitor, I know that they often state that this is the case, but it really isn't as cut and dry as you make it out to be. Want an example? The sites have no problem rating Kyler Murray extremely highly despite the fact that he is a ~5'10" QB. His "Pro Draftability" at that height is not very significant at all, so they are in this case clearly rating him based off of his actual skills and accomplishments. No one in the NFL looks for a 5'10" QB.

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Ellitor, I know that they often state that this is the case, but it really isn't as cut and dry as you make it out to be. Want an example? The sites have no problem rating Kyler Murray extremely highly despite the fact that he is a ~5'10" QB. His "Pro Draftability" at that height is not very significant at all, so they are in this case clearly rating him based off of his actual skills and accomplishments. No one in the NFL looks for a 5'10" QB.

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ETA: nevermind. I just saw Meta made that post and he knows his shite. I still think Murray being touted the next Johnny Football for 2 whole years and Johnny drafted in the first round had a big part with his 5* rating but I will leave it at that.

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Manziel is a full 2 inches taller than Murray; don't try and tell me that they are the "same" as some sort of rationale for his ranking.

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Not trying to rationalize anything. That is honestly what I believe in Marray's case. And I have not said a word about them being the same. All I did was point out that every recruiting analyst regardless of the company touted him the next Johnny Football for 2 years. That's them saying they're the same not me. Maybe the kid has earned that monocur at the HS level. I don't know. In history though it's branding like that which usually over inflated the skill set or ability of the next whatever. Hell maybe I'm so skeptical to the next whatever not being close to the original that it automatically makes me think the next whatever is rated to high. Anyway you are probably right and if you are then it should not be college potential for only some recruits but not the whole. Back to Chandler Cox not even you, as much as I respect your analysis, can convince me, CC does not have solid 4* potential for any team that uses a FB or HB.

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Updated OP. Do yall like probability we land them or a sentence or two about them better?

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My preference would be a sentence or two, but I am just happy with the updates! Anything else is gravy.

Thanks for all the work!

Any team who needs/expects more than one FR to come in and contribute outside of garbage time is in trouble. Especially OL/DB.


Can't remember who was questioning my reason for not saying much about Preston Williams, it is pretty common knowledge that he likes to smoke. No, I didn't see any need to out him prior to this incident, as his attending AU was unlikely. He was asked to leave a Clemson camp as a JR as well. Always heard he was a nice enough kid, just continues to make terrible choices.

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hammer it home next year with WRs (Craig, Stove), DTs (Rochester, Jackson, Marshall?), CBs (Broussard) that can come in and play as true freshman if necessary.

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If we are going to play true freshman at CB and ST, then we will be screwed on defense.

how 'bout everyone post their mock finishes? I'm bored.

IMO

Ivey
Cowart
Holland
C Davis
Dinson
Tega
Beckner
R Davis (would be Godwin if he's willing to flip)

CVO
Cowart
Holland
Prince
Dinson
R Davis
J Davis

As long as we pull Cowart I can live with any of the others.

Cowart - AU
Ivey - Florida
Holland - AU
Javaruis Davis - AU
Dinson - AU
Tega - AU
Ryan Davis - Florida
Chidi - Bama