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Posted by thirdlawson
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 11:50 am to
So whats the verdict on Reed?
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 11:53 am to
Right now it appears to be an Alex Thompson type situation.

He is not currently enrolled at AU, if he is able to meet certain conditions he could enroll in the spring. We likely RS him which probably is a good thing anyways

**Based on Jay Tate
Posted by AUNashville
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 12:06 pm to
Small note, but can we update the title thread to say 2016?
Posted by marshallcotiger
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 12:08 pm to
Starting lineups sometimes reward seniors and experience. The more important lineup is who finishes close games. I believe that will be Canty, Dunans, Purifoy, Harris and Bowers. If Purifoy isn't eligible then slide Tahj into that spot. He is a lock down defender and a very good ball handler. Both of those are very important when you are trying to close out games.
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 12:23 pm to
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Dunans


With all the talk on his shooting ability, is he good enough at the FT line to close games?

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Tahj into that spot. He is a lock down defender


If the opposing team has a big backcourt, does Lang goes in over Tahj. Lang has the length/athleticism to develop into a Bowen type perimeter defender and he defines hustle

I have a hard time believing vs a team like Xavier that has 6'6 Trevon Bluiett at the 2 that we have Canty/Tahj at 6'1/5'7
This post was edited on 10/8/15 at 12:29 pm
Posted by AUtigR24
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 2:07 pm to
No way Tahj and Canty are on the court together for significant minutes. Tahj is a 1 and that backcourt would be extremely small.


IMO
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 2:16 pm to
Tahj hasn't always been a 1 to Bruce. He also is the best on ball defender we have.

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backcourt would be extremely small.


I think this is the bigger deal when playing teams that have average+ size guards
Posted by TigerProwl24
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 2:30 pm to
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Granger won't touch the starting lineup, at least not after 3-5 games. Especially not at the 3 or 5. He is too slow to play perimeter D and too skinny to defend the post. Granger also is below average on offense and a moron 


Like MCT said, I would think our starting lineup will probably reward senior leadership and our more experienced players, which includes Granger. Unless he is suspended or injured, he'll play a significant role. Not sure how you would think he wouldn't, since he is a returning starter. He plays the 3/5 position. Where else would he play? The point? Center?
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 2:43 pm to
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reward senior leadership


Reward the guy who has gotten in more fistfights than produced quality games?

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Unless he is suspended or injured, he'll play a significant role.


If he does, we aren't going to be good. Granger isn't good. If he plays, we have some serious busts


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He plays the 3/5 position. Where else would he play? The point? Center?


What? Granger is a terrible center since he is considerably undersized. Granger is not nearly athletic enough to play as a wing (3/SF) .

So that leaves Granger at PF, which he still isn't good at. We have Spencer, Harris and Purifoy that all should be upgrades over Granger
Posted by TigerProwl24
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 2:56 pm to
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2-Tahj



He is a 1 not a 2, plus he is short for what Bruce likes to do.


Naturally a 1 yes but not entirely with our personnel. Bruce played Tahj at the 2 some last year. I can't think of a reason, as to why that wouldn't be the case again this year.
Posted by TigerProwl24
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 3:20 pm to
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reward senior leadership



Reward the guy who has gotten in more fistfights than produced quality games? 

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Unless he is suspended or injured, he'll play a significant role.



If he does, we aren't going to be good. Granger isn't good. If he plays, we have some serious busts 


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He plays the 3/5 position. Where else would he play? The point? Center?



What? Granger is a terrible center since he is considerably undersized. Granger is not nearly athletic enough to play as a wing (3/SF) . 

So that leaves Granger at PF, which he still isn't good at. We have Spencer, Harris and Purifoy that all should be upgrades over Gran


Granger has big game experience, which half our roster is without. You can't teach experience. That is why he will play early and often. Bruce has entrusted him to be one of our leaders and contribute, or he wouldn't still be on the team. We have talented newcomers but the lack of experience is why they will be gradually worked into the lineup, not because they are busts but young. Also, I played in a similar system as ours and the 4 is our center, who basically runs from paint to paint. 3 is a wing. 5 will play on the arc and in the paint. The 5 also inbounds the ball and is the on ball defender in our full court press.
This post was edited on 10/8/15 at 3:26 pm
Posted by Smoke7024
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 3:33 pm to
I think he did that out of necessity last year. We're a bit deeper this year so I don't think Tahj will get many minutes at two, at least not after the new guys get acclimated. I'm curious to see how New Williams will fit into the lineup.

Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 3:37 pm to
I could see Granger getting early minutes but by Xavier, I don't think he gets more than 10 minutes per game. Mostly for fresh legs/depth issues in the front court

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Granger has big game experience, which half our roster is without.


I see that argument but it seems like Canty/Lang/Harris/Bowers are all in line to either start or get serious minutes. All 4 have played D1 basketball with Harris having some NCAA experience
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 3:39 pm to
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I think he did that out of necessity last year


It was the opposite. Tahj was always a 2 for Bruce until Kenneth's poor play forced him to play the 1.

Before the season kicked off, we seemed to be happy with Kenneth and Canada at the 1
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 3:41 pm to
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We have talented newcomers but the lack of experience is why they will be gradually worked into the lineup,


I guess I should clarify, I don't necessarily disagree with your premise, just that I think his MPG are around 15-20 to start then go do sub 10 MPG.

I see us keeping him around more a result of having no height on our roster rather than Bruce truly believing in Granger
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 3:43 pm to
Yeah, but Granger is a good flex for Bruce's system that he can just run and let him be athletic. Fast break machine right there.
Posted by AUtigR24
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 3:45 pm to
New Williams missed a lot of time. Bruce likes him a lot though. I wouldn't be surprised if we don't see a lot of him this season. We have Canty and Tahj so New will have to fight for PT this season.

Granger is pretty bad but not as bad as most give him credit for. He can defend around the rim and score down there.

He's definitely more of a scoring threat than Spencer. Those two will swap out offensive / defense as the game dictates.

iMO
Posted by Smoke7024
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 4:22 pm to
Either way, Tahj will see most of his minutes at PG, IMO. I watched those guys play for a couple hours and I think Dunans and Brown will take almost all of the minutes at the two. I think it'll be something like:

Canty - Tahj
Dunans - Brown
Lang - Purifoy
Harris - Granger
Bowers - Spencer

This isn't necessarily the starting lineup but how I think most minutes will be distributed. The 4 and 5 are almost interchangeable. Also, Granger looks like he's put on quite a bit of muscle too.
This post was edited on 10/8/15 at 4:25 pm
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 5:04 pm to
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that he can just run and let him be athletic


Have you ever seen Granger gallop down the court? Guy makes Rob Chubb look coordinated
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 5:07 pm to
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Either way, Tahj will see most of his minutes at PG


I think our personnel dictates this considering New Williams probably isn't "there" to be PG like Bruce supposedly recruited him. I want to say in HS he was a 2 and we want him at the 1

I think the point MCT was making is that in crunch time, Tahj's defense and experience makes him and Canty the preferred 1/2



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