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re: 2014 QB
Posted on 10/16/13 at 12:10 pm to parkjas2001
Posted on 10/16/13 at 12:10 pm to parkjas2001
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2 QB dont work. If you have 2, you dont have 1.
Maybe - but he's never had this kind of talent with disparate skills - I think. See Tebow - Leak for FL. That worked pretty well for them.
Hell - he has been bringing in Frazier for the wildcat. I think he has ways to get NM and JJ creating problems on the field at the same time.
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Posted on 10/16/13 at 12:11 pm to LanierSpots
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I think we see him a series or two this weekend. I think he plays a complete half next week against Florida ATL but his snaps increase against the remainder of our season
I definitely see him playing in garbage time against FAU but I don't see his snaps increasing against real competition.
I don't really remember Gus ever really using a two QB system. He might run wildcat a few times but I don't really count that as a two QB system.
Posted on 10/16/13 at 12:12 pm to parkjas2001
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He has never used a 2 QB system. Didn't at Arky, Tulsa, Auburn, or Arky St.
Different scenarios, different players.
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2 QB dont work. If you have 2, you dont have 1.
Situationally, yes they do.
Posted on 10/16/13 at 12:13 pm to AUsteriskPride
I have no problem using Johnson as wildcat QB. That scheme may actually consistently work for a change
Posted on 10/16/13 at 12:14 pm to GenesChin
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I have no problem using Johnson as wildcat QB. That scheme may actually consistently work for a change
No Frazier? Not legit.
Posted on 10/16/13 at 12:14 pm to parkjas2001
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If you have 2, you dont have 1.
This is new and interesting commentary.
Just need you to throw in a Madden-esque "Yuck yuck, what we need to do is score more points than the other team" and we're good.
Posted on 10/16/13 at 12:14 pm to GenesChin
I'd play NM as the wildcat actually too. Wildcat is about numbers - and having more bodies in the way to open lanes. I don't think Nick's size would hinder his ability to quickly exploit those gaps and gain chunks of yards.
Posted on 10/16/13 at 12:15 pm to RandySavage
You may be right, but I would like to get through aTm first and then the rest of the schedule.
Posted on 10/16/13 at 12:21 pm to CreoleAubie
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See Tebow - Leak for FL. That worked pretty well for them.
Ppl need to stop using that as a 2 QB example. That was Chris Leaks team. Tebow ran a few wildcat plays. That is very similiar to AU in 2007 when Brandon Cox was the QB and Kodi came in for a few designed runs...or Oklahoma last season when they ran Bell for only certain plays but Jones was the QB.
Ok St ran a 2 Qb system where each QB ran full drives from start to finish. It didnt work and Gundy nows uses one.
Posted on 10/16/13 at 12:26 pm to parkjas2001
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Ppl need to stop using that as a 2 QB example. That was Chris Leaks team. Tebow ran a few wildcat plays
Tebow had double digit TDs that year. He was more than a token player who ran a few wildcat plays.
Let me say this....if we are running fast and having NM run the read option and even a few wildcat plays, and then on a first down, have JJ run out and look to straight pass, that creates havoc on the defense. And will probably force a lot of burned timeouts. My opinion. It can work.
Posted on 10/16/13 at 12:27 pm to parkjas2001
NM won't swap to db his senior year. He'll be back up and given some snaps in garbage time or wildcat plays.
Posted on 10/16/13 at 12:27 pm to CreoleAubie
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Tebow had double digit TDs that year. He was more than a token player who ran a few wildcat plays
No he wasnt. Chris Leak threw over 360 times...Tebow threw the ball 33. He had 89 carries and was the second leading rusher. He WAS the token wildcat player.
Posted on 10/16/13 at 12:32 pm to AUtigR24
Auburn coach Gus Malzahn on QBs Nick Marshall and Jeremy Johnson: "We feel like we can utilize them both in different aspects."
Wonder if that means moving one to DB. You guys may be right. Gus does have a history of taking QBs and making them DBs.
Wonder if that means moving one to DB. You guys may be right. Gus does have a history of taking QBs and making them DBs.
Posted on 10/16/13 at 12:42 pm to parkjas2001
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He WAS the token wildcat player.
My point is 13 TDs is nothing to shake a stick at - call it what you want. Had he not been in there, it is pretty clear that they would not have scored as much as they did with having his feet and/or arm in there. Ergo that 2 QB system was valuable, reaped results, and worked. If Marshall scores 13 TDs (passing and running) out of the wildcat - or more - why not do it? There is no risk in my opinion. It's not like I am saying they share the same types of reps like Spurrier has tried to do time and time again.
Anyway - that's my thinking. We shall see I guess! WEGL
Posted on 10/16/13 at 12:52 pm to parkjas2001
Well its going to be screwed up if they bring JJ in to run when he is a passing QB and use NM, a running QB, to pass. But I still don't think the coaches wasted a RS year to have him come out and run 5 running plays a game anyways. They should at least give him some drives of his own here or there. If NM gets back to full speed running then I would like to see JJ at QB and NM in at RB with the chance to throw.
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Posted on 10/16/13 at 12:55 pm to CreoleAubie
quote:You know... except for the other team being able to sub at the same time, basically slowing the offense down where it doesn't create havoc.
Let me say this....if we are running fast and having NM run the read option and even a few wildcat plays, and then on a first down, have JJ run out and look to straight pass, that creates havoc on the defense. And will probably force a lot of burned timeouts. My opinion. It can work.
Posted on 10/16/13 at 12:56 pm to Rabern57
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They should at least give him some drives of his own here or there. If NM gets back to full speed running then I would like to see JJ at QB and NM in at RB with the chance to throw.
Posted on 10/16/13 at 12:56 pm to Rabern57
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Well its going to be screwed up if they bring JJ in to run when he is a passing QB and use NM, a running QB, to pass
Thats my concern. They would have to have JJ start since majority will be passing/handing ball off and Nick come in to do wilcat/passing packages. Zone Read is Nick's specialty IMO. The main thing I dont want is putting in the other QB for a random package and it kills a drive.
Posted on 10/16/13 at 12:59 pm to Rabern57
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They should at least give him some drives of his own here or there.
Worst idea ever if you're trying to compete this year.
Posted on 10/16/13 at 1:06 pm to Weagle25
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Worst idea ever if you're trying to compete this year.
Let me ask you this.....if NM gets in a funk in a game airing post patterns too far and missing easy slant passes again, will you be calling for JJ to spell him for a few drives?
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