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re: NFL draft - Let's post some mocks
Posted on 4/30/23 at 4:22 pm to Tigertown in ATL
Posted on 4/30/23 at 4:22 pm to Tigertown in ATL
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Meaningless
Now the goalposts are being moved.
We'll revisit this in January.
This post was edited on 4/30/23 at 4:24 pm
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Posted on 4/30/23 at 4:27 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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He’s a stupid pick at 8.
I think a lot of people are gonna eat these words IMO.
Posted on 4/30/23 at 6:24 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
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Meaningless Now the goalposts are being moved.
Not for me they aren’t.
Winning the south is better than sucking but meaningless without more
Posted on 5/1/23 at 7:01 am to SteelerBravesDawg
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think a lot of people are gonna eat these words IMO.
There’s not much In between here. I’d love to be wrong but when most teams are going rb through committee it’s a stupid pick that high
Posted on 5/2/23 at 8:30 am to Porter Osborne Jr
The problem is not the pick per se. It’s the number of other holes with higher priority.
It’s a good pick for the right team. Suppose the Falcons take Carter at 8 and the Eagles take Robinson at 9.
Not a bad pick for them.
It’s a good pick for the right team. Suppose the Falcons take Carter at 8 and the Eagles take Robinson at 9.
Not a bad pick for them.
Posted on 5/2/23 at 9:15 am to Porter Osborne Jr
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There’s not much In between here. I’d love to be wrong but when most teams are going rb through committee it’s a stupid pick that high
Go look at the rosters of really good teams in the last several years and you'll notice a few things.
1. They don't pay QBs unless that QB is named Patrick Mahomes. Yeah, Buffalo paid Allen, but their Super Bowl window is quickly closing as a result.
2. They don't spend premium assets on RBs. Technically, I guess KC spent the #32 pick on CEH in 2020, but he hardly ever plays and there's a decent chance he is cut before the season starts. 7th round pick Isiah Pacheco was their #1 RB this past season.
3. They do spend premium assets building up their lines. The three best teams in the NFL (IMO) are Kansas City, Philadelphia, and San Francisco. They're all loaded with dominant studs on both lines of scrimmage.
Posted on 5/2/23 at 9:55 am to VADawg
I can’t even believe Philly got Carter and Smith.
Carter could bust but I think Smith will be a pro bowler barring injuries.
Unreal speed. High character. Super smart. High “motor”. Leader.
Carter could bust but I think Smith will be a pro bowler barring injuries.
Unreal speed. High character. Super smart. High “motor”. Leader.
Posted on 5/2/23 at 12:16 pm to Tigertown in ATL
I despise the Eagles and all other Philadelphia teams because their fans are just low rent trash, but damn they're an amazing drafting team. The Eagles had 70 sacks last season, yet they decided to bolster their pass rush anyways because they understand how important it is to have elite defensive line play.
Posted on 5/2/23 at 3:57 pm to BigBro
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Bijan is a generational back. He is that good, and whoever gets him will fall in love with him on and off the field.
ok homer. tell me about how well ut did with this generational back
Posted on 5/2/23 at 10:02 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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No he’s not. He’s not better than Barkley, Chubb, Henry, and several others. He’s a stupid pick at 8.
Not to mention he played in the shitty big 12.
Posted on 5/2/23 at 10:04 pm to VADawg
How did the linebacker look the falcons picked in the third round from Montana do?
Posted on 5/5/23 at 1:05 pm to JCdawg
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How did the linebacker look the falcons picked in the third round from Montana do?
Troy Anderson was actually taken in the 2nd round.
And he started the last 5 games and ended up w/40 tackles. That's pretty good.
Posted on 5/15/23 at 6:18 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
If look at any random draft, most first rounders end up bustin anyways. Y’all remember when the falcons had like 7-8 former first rders on D a couple of years ago?
Falcon’s success will depend on if Ridder is any good. Kinda of either want him to ball out or bust hard so we can get Caleb. I think Bucs are in tank mode tho.
Falcon’s success will depend on if Ridder is any good. Kinda of either want him to ball out or bust hard so we can get Caleb. I think Bucs are in tank mode tho.
This post was edited on 5/15/23 at 6:19 pm
Posted on 8/16/23 at 8:38 pm to Huge Richard
We drafted a RB with the 8th pick meanwhile in Philly:
Posted on 8/17/23 at 7:35 am to dhuck20
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We drafted a RB with the 8th pick
One of the dumbest draft picks in a long, long time.
Posted on 8/18/23 at 7:21 am to VADawg
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One of the dumbest draft picks in a long, long time.
No, it wasn't.
Blank would never have let Fontenot draft Carter with their top ten first round pick. So, get over that.
Robinson was the perfect fit for this offense and, according to many "experts", was the top player in the draft.
GMs and head coaches in the NFL no longer care about 3 years from now. Their job is on the line from day one. This is the first year they got out of salary cap hell. They decided to build the defense with their new found money.
With three top ten 1st round picks, they used them to draft skilled position players that you wouldn't have gotten outside of the top ten picks. The offensive line has gotten better since they took over and now they basically have a brand new defense.
I don't have delusions of grandeur, but making the playoffs with this roster is not out of the realm of possibility, because of who they drafted, not because of who they didn't.
Posted on 8/18/23 at 11:48 am to bulldawger
They drafted a RB in the top 10. I don't care what the name on the back of the jersey says. That is absolutely fricktarded. Modern NFL running games are entirely dependent on scheme and OL play and have very little to do with the skill of the runner himself.
Last season, the Panthers were 1-5 when they traded McCaffrey to the 49ers. They went 6-5 after.
Derrick Henry missed 9 games for Tennessee in 2021. His replacements were Dontrelle Hilliard and D'Onta Foreman, who combined to make less than $1M (compared to Henry's $10M). Tennessee went 6-3 in those 9 games and averaged about 140 rushing yards per game. It's highly unlikely they would have done any better or worse with Henry in there.
In 2018, when the Rams made their Super Bowl run, it was with Todd Gurley injured and on the bench. They signed CJ Anderson off the street and didn't skip a beat in production.
No team's season goes down the shitter when a RB gets hurt because they're so easily replaceable, especially in Arthur Smith's scheme, which can get anyone to average 4 ypc.
Also, the Falcons completely negated the great value they had in Allgeier by drafting over him.
Just absolute dumbassery by a franchise that has done a lot of dumbassery over the years.
This should be the expectation. I think it would be a massive failure if they don't win this division. I don't expect them to advance in the playoffs, but they should absolutely win this division. The Buccaneers are awful, the Panthers are probably a year away, and the Saints gave an obnoxious contract to Derek Carr, who is the picture definition of mediocre.
Last season, the Panthers were 1-5 when they traded McCaffrey to the 49ers. They went 6-5 after.
Derrick Henry missed 9 games for Tennessee in 2021. His replacements were Dontrelle Hilliard and D'Onta Foreman, who combined to make less than $1M (compared to Henry's $10M). Tennessee went 6-3 in those 9 games and averaged about 140 rushing yards per game. It's highly unlikely they would have done any better or worse with Henry in there.
In 2018, when the Rams made their Super Bowl run, it was with Todd Gurley injured and on the bench. They signed CJ Anderson off the street and didn't skip a beat in production.
No team's season goes down the shitter when a RB gets hurt because they're so easily replaceable, especially in Arthur Smith's scheme, which can get anyone to average 4 ypc.
Also, the Falcons completely negated the great value they had in Allgeier by drafting over him.
Just absolute dumbassery by a franchise that has done a lot of dumbassery over the years.
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making the playoffs with this roster is not out of the realm of possibility
This should be the expectation. I think it would be a massive failure if they don't win this division. I don't expect them to advance in the playoffs, but they should absolutely win this division. The Buccaneers are awful, the Panthers are probably a year away, and the Saints gave an obnoxious contract to Derek Carr, who is the picture definition of mediocre.
This post was edited on 8/18/23 at 6:26 pm
Posted on 8/18/23 at 7:56 pm to VADawg
Ok. So RBs are a complete waste.
So why is it the Falcons should win the division?
According to you, every other team in the NFC south is terrible and the Falcons completely whiffed on this draft and don’t have a clue. So this makes it automatic the Falcons win the division?
Okay.
So why is it the Falcons should win the division?
According to you, every other team in the NFC south is terrible and the Falcons completely whiffed on this draft and don’t have a clue. So this makes it automatic the Falcons win the division?
Okay.
Posted on 8/19/23 at 7:10 am to bulldawger
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According to you, every other team in the NFC south is terrible and the Falcons completely whiffed on this draft and don’t have a clue. So this makes it automatic the Falcons win the division?
They have the best roster in the division. Drafting a RB in the first round has nothing to do with that. I really like a lot of the free agent moves on defense. I expect the pass rush to be significantly better.
There are a few commonalities between all of the most recent Super Bowl winners:
1. None of them had QBs making top flight money except for Kansas City last season, and that's only because Mahomes is a unicorn.
2. None of them used significant resources on a RB except for Kansas City spending a 1st round pick on Clyde Edwards-Helaire, who watched their entire Super Bowl run from the bench while a 7th round rookie and a former Georgia Southern QB split backfield duties.
3. They all had great pass rushes.
Posted on 8/19/23 at 9:00 am to VADawg
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They have the best roster in the division.
Maybe. I'm not sure they're roster is better than New Orleans. Tampa, yes, and Carolina, yes.
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Drafting a RB in the first round has nothing to do with that.
I would tend to agree with you on this statement, except that Robinson is considered a game changing, franchise lifting type prospect. The Falcons are betting on this, which is why they drafted him that high. It's not like they drafted Kenny McIntosh with the 8th pick. If they're wrong, it'll be their arse. If not, then the pick will have been worth it.
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