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re: What’s up with all Musselman leaving talk?

Posted on 3/22/24 at 7:40 pm to
Posted by Hawgeye
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Posted on 3/22/24 at 7:40 pm to
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You may hear chatter of Muss and SMU…don’t buy it. Andy Enfield is who their #1 is.


So Enfield’s wife isn’t big on the move from LA to Dallas. She’s the hold up there. Muss was/is about 4th/5th on their list. It’s basically Enfield and then Muss now, but there has been another coaches agent reach out to SMU people. That coach is currently in the SEC as well.

I’ve said on here before that HY and Muss rarely talk. Muss controls everything related to NIL with no help from HY. If we do end up losing Muss over this petty bullshite, HY needs to walk the plank.
Posted by cubsfan5150
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 3/22/24 at 9:19 pm to
If we lose Muss, I want the guy that was my first choice when Muss was hired. Kelvin Sampson. He’s old, but he’s good.
Posted by The Sultan of Swine
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 3/22/24 at 9:25 pm to
Might as well want Coach K in his prime… just as likely. Unless we hire Houston’s AD or something … wait we tried that
This post was edited on 3/22/24 at 9:26 pm
Posted by CFB_Fanatic
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 3/22/24 at 9:28 pm to
Would take him in a heartbeat. He was in the mix when we hired Muss supposedly. Great coach
Posted by cubsfan5150
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 3/22/24 at 9:47 pm to
Speaking of other hall of fame coaches, if Cal gets pushed out, then he’s a plug and play if we lose Muss. Doubt he’d come here though.
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 3/22/24 at 9:48 pm to
He was supposedly the first call Hunter made. However, Sampson wanted his son to be coach in waiting and Hunter wouldn't do that.

Posted by pioneerbasketball
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Posted on 3/22/24 at 9:48 pm to
nvm, i'm an idiot
This post was edited on 3/22/24 at 9:56 pm
Posted by The Sultan of Swine
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 3/22/24 at 10:01 pm to
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Speaking of other hall of fame coaches, if Cal gets pushed out, then he’s a plug and play if we lose Muss


No thanks
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12400 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 8:14 am to
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I’ve said on here before that HY and Muss rarely talk. Muss controls everything related to NIL with no help from HY. If we do end up losing Muss over this petty bullshite, HY needs to walk the plank.


I was the first Hunter darksider because I despised how he basically took 2 years off during the Morris era — one of our darkest we've had in any sport — which struck me as downright cowardly. Funny how he was AWOL for large parts of 2018 and 2019, and then all of sudden is prominently featured in the locker room in any Hogs+ video after any win.

He’s also largely full of shite.

Remember the dumb “real fans” tweet he made after one of Morris’s early embarrassing losses (believe it was Colorado State)?

Remember when he made a bunch of bullshite, hollow remarks about how losing should be justification for firing a coach for cause and not paying his buyout? That comment alone — despite being nothing more than empty fan service — likely turned some prospective candidates away from our coaching search in 2019.

Remember when he said he was going to revolutionize coaching contracts and buyout structures? Oh wait, we now have a shitty, lame duck football coach we can’t fire because of his expensive buyout (which Hunter stupidly gave him after he got worked by his agent). He either wouldn’t or couldn’t fire Pittman, and it was largely due to financial constraints.

Remember how he joined the lobby effort to crusade against NIL? While some sort of governance and/or oversight is something that is needed, the optics of him joining the fight while we’re among the weakest collectives are pretty poor. Our NIL is shite, which falls at his feet.

In this new modern age, an Athletic Director basically has three responsibilities: raise funds, hire good coaches, and operationalize a world-class NIL collective to marry those two things (arm good coaches with funds for good players). Hunter sucks at all 3.
Posted by beebefootballfan
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 3/23/24 at 9:12 am to
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Funny how he was AWOL for large parts of 2018 and 2019, and then all of sudden is prominently featured in the locker room in any Hogs+ video after any win.


He’s a self promotionist. When we win and he can make himself look competent he will be in front of every camera. When crap hits the fan he’s nowhere to be found.
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12400 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 10:04 am to
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He’s a self promotionist. When we win and he can make himself look competent he will be in front of every camera. When crap hits the fan he’s nowhere to be found.


Been saying this for years.

AWOL when we lose, front and center when we win.

Not exactly the hallmark of stellar, steady leadership.
Posted by WonderWartHawg
Member since Dec 2010
10399 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 12:32 pm to
I don't particularly want Muss to hit the bricks. Team just didn't gel for some reason this year. Guess that's what happens with players being more concerned with 'what's in it for me' these days with NIL.

I think the smoke that he may be leaving/looking is just that - smoke. But where there's smoke...

The thing that makes me think this is true is that (I believe) we should have locked down a couple of good transfers out of the portal by now. There are currently 80 players in the On3 transfer port rankings that are 4* or above.
You'd think we'd have a couple of them by now if Muss was working hard for next year.
Posted by admiralduckwad
Member since Dec 2012
2700 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 6:33 pm to
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He’s a self promotionist.


They all are. An AD's primary job is basically raising money and then sometimes it is convincing a coach to join your program after he helps raise the money to pay for said coach. An AD is a salesman
Posted by Razorback Reverend
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 3/23/24 at 8:32 pm to
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They all are. An AD's primary job is basically raising money and then sometimes it is convincing a coach to join your program after he helps raise the money to pay for said coach. An AD is a salesman


Agreed, but HY is a different breed, have been around him twice... listening to his praises of our sports programs, he of course sings the praises of Gymnastics, Softball, T&F, and Men's BB until now.

What Feral said above seems true to me.
1. He is always in the Pic with a win, and hiding from the hard times.. not answering questions.
2. He is the main reason our NIL program sucks.
3. He is a blowhard.
4. What he is doing to BWA is nuts. Needs to be stopped imho.
5. He talks a big game, and winnows around in the shadows when the going gets tough. He also admittedly said that he plans to retire from this within a few more years. Fwiw.
Posted by Maytheporkbewithyou
Member since Aug 2016
12614 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 8:34 pm to
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He also admittedly said that he plans to retire from this within a few more years. Fwiw.


What happened to the lady that fired Bert? Can we get her to fire Yuracheck since nobody else in the AD has the balls to fire anybody?
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65787 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 8:51 pm to
Louisville fans in disarray as they thought they had Dusty May locked up.

May takes the Michigan job instead.

Muss may be back in play now.
Posted by Razorback Reverend
Member since Dec 2013
22753 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 8:55 pm to
crap or get off the dang pot Muss!
Posted by admiralduckwad
Member since Dec 2012
2700 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 8:56 pm to
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What happened to the lady that fired Bert? Can we get her to fire Yuracheck since nobody else in the AD has the balls to fire anybody?


The one who hired Chad Morris?
Posted by Razorback Reverend
Member since Dec 2013
22753 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 9:05 pm to
Posted by CFB_Fanatic
Member since Aug 2016
2269 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 9:11 pm to
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4. What he is doing to BWA is nuts. Needs to be stopped imho.


You talking about removing the seating to add high dollar suites?
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