re: Welp I was wrong

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Don’t take it out on me bud.

Hold on to that rope.

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I hate you too hawgalude. You are miserable, and you don't even eloquently hate on this staff or give good reasons they suck. You just suck, and make fun of everything about them. We do need Texas. Its historically accurate. Chad still needs to go, and we need someone else who gets that though. They don't have to be from there.

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I hate you too hawgalude. You are miserable, and you don't even eloquently hate on this staff or give good reasons they suck. You just suck, and make fun of everything about them. We do need Texas. Its historically accurate. Chad still needs to go, and we need someone else who gets that though. They don't have to be from there.

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Did you even quote the right person? Do they teach reading at Arkansas Tech?

Look, you dont want to like me, fine. Doesnt matter.

But these guys are clowns. He was a clown the day he was hired. Mother fricking 14-22. God bless. And they thought this was a good idea?? Then we were condemned for even questioning it....how dare we question the almighty GOB club up there making decisions? Its sickening. And its sickening people supported it.

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Oh come on! Don’t give up now! 

The ship is barely under water! Hold on to your captain Chaggie!

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Can’t fire him now. Gotta let him finish this recruiting cycle.

Shoulda hired Matt Campbell.

BuT wE NeEd tExaS to WiN

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CFB_Fanatic

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AKA

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HawgAlude

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Yes I am sure I quoted the right person. You are just too busy patting yourself on the arse for hating Chad earlier than others to remember your own melt earlier in the thread. You hated Morris from the jump because he wasn't "your guy". Just like hawgalude hated bert because he wasnt gus. Chaggie wasn't my guy either. I wanted norvell, or Kiffin honestly, but I dont hate him because of that. I hate Chad because he hires poor assistants on offense, and cant get this team prepared like a SEC coach.

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Choosing to dislike a coach from day 1 because he wasn't who you wanted isn't "seeing things how they were". It's raising hell for no reason. I didn't see a single argument against Chad founded in football/coaching reasoning.

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I didn't choose to dislike him from day one. I kept holding onto the rope while also not giving him the same amount of ridiculous slack I gave Bielema, even though the signs that he (Bielema) wouldn't work out were also there quite early on. Bert at least had a stellar record from a major conference. Some kind of pedigree to work with.

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Only the same dumb recycled narrative about what little coaching history he did have IF there ever was an actual point being argued in the first place. Most of the time it was just "LOLOL AGGIE CHAD BAD".

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It wasn't the fact that he had little coaching history. It's about the fact that what coaching history he did have was underwhelming at absolute best. Like, can you honestly sit there and tell me there are NO warning signs of ANY kind that this guy was a risky hire? What did he have to go on? He installed a decent offense at Clemson that another guy ended up winning a NC with, therefore he deserves full credit? Every failed head coach was at one point a good assistant, who cares.

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Chad in no way deserved to be fired before this season like many were calling for and that much is and always was true. If being the voice of reason and saying that is annoying, then yeah. Lat and everyone like him was annoying.

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I never called for Chad to be fired. Again, I didn't dislike him from day one - I was baffled and underwhelmed for day one. He had a record breaking bad first season. I wasn't going to buy into the bullshite rhetoric that we were somehow just that bad. That we could lose to a 3–9 Colorado State team. That we could get rolled by four fricking touchdowns by North Texas at home. That we could lose each and every SEC game - even 5–7 Ole Miss and 6–7 Vanderbilt (both at home) - and it be on the personnel and not Chad Morris. But I still held onto hope because that first recruiting class was actually pretty fricking good. I held onto hope after the paltry Portland State win. Because Ole Miss looked vulnerable. I held on after the Ole Miss loss because Nick Starkel looked decent and we could still eke out some wins. I held onto the Colorado State game, despite being tied 34–34 going into Q4, because we actually did something out of character for once, so we must be turning some kind of corner, right? We could still win out our G5 OoC wins and get an SEC win and say that's good enough, even though that's just five wins, right? Like, how much more slack can a guy possibly get? Well now we lost to a team that won a single game in the Mountain West conference last year. In our own stadium.

I wasn't calling for his head the day he got hired. That's fricking stupid. Regardless of how I felt about the hire, we went and did it, so he deserved a fair amount of time. I was thinking three years at least, even despite a 2–10 start, because that's just common courtesy to a guy you handed the reins to. Going 2–10/3–9 with no SEC wins yet again in the second year is not excusable. We've seen what's coming and there's no need to peel this band-aid off slowly.

You're not the voice of reason. Latarian isn't the voice of reason. Neither were the people saying fire him right out the gate. There's a happy medium that I tried to walk, between saying he needs time but to also not go to such great lengths to gloss over his shortcomings just because we feel trapped, so we might as well make the most of it. This is a message board. This is the healthy outlet we're supposed to use to bitch about the team we love sucking be cause of boneheaded hires by old men who are suffocating because there's no oxygen in their assholes.

I'm not happy this coach has failed. I'm not happy more years of my fandom have gone to waste. I'm unhappy because this hire was obviously retarded from the start and now the only answer is to get people to stop going to the games so we can expedite the process. Like, do you honestly not think that hurts me to say?

This is the reasonable, cautiously optimistic post I made in another topic three weeks ago (prior to the Ole Miss loss) about being hopeful that we could win with Morris:

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I'm with you. Our lives would be easier if it turned out that he was the guy for the job and we didn't have to go through all this mess again, but I'm not going to sit here and lie to myself and make excuses for him just because we're stuck with him for 3-5 years, so I might as well get used to it. We have three G5 opponents on the schedule. One of them just lost to an FCS team, another is 0-1. Ole Miss lost to a G5 and looks as shitty as ever. Missouri lost to Wyoming. Kentucky and MSU looked stronger than us, but not untouchable. We have enough potential wins on this schedule to reach a Bowl and give some good momentum going forward. I'm really not as doom and gloom as I seem - I think this year could have positives and I'm actually kind of looking forward to the Ole Miss game. But this is literally as easy as it's ever going to get for him. We need to win at least one of Ole Miss, Missouri, Kentucky, and Mississippi State, and put away our crappy OoC opponents. He doesn't deserve the time of day if we look exactly like we did last year. Which, to no one's surprise, that's exactly how bad we look thus far while beating an FCS opponent by one TD.

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This was Latarian's response to that post:

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Here’s the bottom line: most of you guys are soft, can’t handle losing so you cry like a bunch of children instead of acting like a reasonable adult, considering the situation and being patient He may not end up successful but this instant gratification/fire him after one season bullshite is fricking annoying. Grow up. Go Hogs.

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Nowhere, except in this very topic, have I said I wanted him gone. Nowhere have I called for instantaneous success. I'm fine with a 3–5 year build if we actually look better each year. We don't look better. We won't look better.

"Voice of reason." Voice of a condescending asswipe who can't justify his Stockholm Syndrome.

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I was never "Pro Chad". Just anti-dumbass.

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Yeah you’re totally not a dumbass.

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Nowhere, except in this very topic, have I said I wanted him gone. Nowhere have I called for instantaneous success. I'm fine with a 3–5 year build if we actually look better each year. We don't look better. We won't look better.

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Then guess what? I wasn’t referring to you or I would’ve by name

What I can’t understand if your Morris is, you’re playing San Jose State, you have bigger better athletes. You should be able to line up 11 on 11 and run the ball for an average of 5 yards a play, yet Starkel has 50 pass attempts.

Why?

Because Morris kept running Whaley over and over. A tip toe tailback and a paper mache offensive line are bad combinations of softness.

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We are legitimately staring down the barrel of a 1 win season.

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We're at 2-2, so we at least avoided the 1 win mark.

Progress!