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re: Stoners and others unite...

Posted on 10/28/16 at 8:43 am to
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
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Posted on 10/28/16 at 8:43 am to
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Basically because if you don't know the facts, it just sounds like pot heads trying to get legal weed


There is really no excuse for that anymore with how long it has been discussed but yes there are still plenty of ignorant people in this state.
Posted by johnzorback
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Posted on 10/28/16 at 9:43 am to
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Posted by sugatowng
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Posted on 10/28/16 at 10:18 am to
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Why not make rose bushes illegal while you're at it.


It would be if it got you high...just got in line to vote. Took a few hits from the rose bush on the way out...good thing because it looks like an hour wait
Posted by sugatowng
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Posted on 10/28/16 at 10:20 am to
There are plenty of non shady people
Posted by WonderWartHawg
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 10/28/16 at 10:40 am to
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it just sounds like pot heads trying to get legal weed


Sadly, that's the angle some the the anti ads have been taking, showing the scroungiest looking long haired young folks smoking weed.
This post was edited on 10/28/16 at 10:42 am
Posted by hogfly
Fayetteville, AR
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 10/28/16 at 10:49 am to
Talked to a guy the other day who had a scrip for 250 30mg roxys a month due to back issues.

He hasn't filled his scrip in a year since he started obtaining tincture to help him sleep at night.
Posted by Columbia
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Posted on 10/28/16 at 12:15 pm to
Are there people out there who have actually smoked weed who are against it being legal? Seriously
Posted by Razorback Reverend
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 10/28/16 at 12:31 pm to
I am in the minority on here, of course.

I am not against legalizing it, and I am not for legalizing it.

I honestly do not have enough real knowledge on the subject. One thing I do know.

Meth is killing our state and several others. There are so many people in the judicial system linked to meth now that it is a pandemic.

I remember when the word "Drugs" was used to mean "Pot"... now the word drugs is directly linked to Meth.

If MJ is not going to cause wrecks, and cause more addiction that will harm society. ANd get us away from this evil meth addiction... Well, now I am just talking to talk I guess...
Posted by blacknblu
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 10/28/16 at 12:50 pm to
I respect that response
I think the first step is learning the difference between Meth and MJ. I agree 100%, and can understand why some may be confused and apprehensive about this legislation because of the lack of understanding what the substance is, what it does, and how it will be controlled. Just being told "it'll be alright" isn't enough for some who lack the knowledge.

I encourage you to research, and learn as much as you can so you can make an informed decision when you cast your ballot.

ETA: Meanwhile, I'm stuck in Missouri, and Arkansas is looking to be the more progressive State. WTF?
This post was edited on 10/28/16 at 12:59 pm
Posted by vengeanceofrain
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Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 10/28/16 at 1:58 pm to
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Talked to a guy the other day who had a scrip for 250 30mg roxys a month due to back issues.
can you put me in touch with this guy.. for research purposes and shite
Posted by WonderWartHawg
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 10/28/16 at 5:17 pm to
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If MJ is not going to cause wrecks, and cause more addiction that will harm society.


I'd dare say that cell phones cause (or would cause) 1000 times more wrecks. Also, much more harm has been done to society by making it illegal.
Posted by sugatowng
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Posted on 10/28/16 at 6:52 pm to
Agree with th cell phones...stoners are still going to smoke if it passes or not. They will just do it cheaper if it isn't passed
Posted by Clark14
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Posted on 10/28/16 at 10:51 pm to
There would be less speeding tickets..
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 10/29/16 at 12:04 am to
The #1 thing that always pisses me off is when they call it a gateway drug.

"Once you do pot you'll go do harder stuff"

Bull. fricking. shite.

I've smoked pot regularly since about soph year in high school and heavily all throughout college, best friend was in a frat, partied hard all through college, never once did anything but smoke pot and never have.

If someone is going to smoke meth or shoot heroine, I do not believe for a second that marijuana is one reason they got to that point. If you're gonna be a hardcore druggie, then you're just gonna be a hardcore druggie, MJ or no MJ.
Posted by hogfly
Fayetteville, AR
Member since May 2014
4634 posts
Posted on 10/29/16 at 12:23 am to
Eh, there's something to the gateway theory, but it's in large part a result of the BS war on drugs.

Pot is a "deviant" behavior. By procuring it and using it, one often comes into contact with deviant subcultures that have different norms than mainstream society. As one continues to associate with that subculture, then other behaviors that one might have once consider aberrant can become normalized. Obviously, that didn't happen with you, but it DOES happen quite often.

In addition, due to the BS "Just say NO" and "This is your brain on drugs" campaign involving tons of misinformation about marijuana, pot users, often, upon using pot and starting to do their own research realize the huge amounts of fallacious propaganda surrounding those campaigns. They then might extrapolate out onto other drugs the same BS propaganda that they've discovered was used on pot. That can, once again, normalize use of other drugs and justify it.

All of this could be solved, of course, by removing the deviant aspects of marijuana usage by decriminalizing it.
This post was edited on 10/29/16 at 12:24 am
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65774 posts
Posted on 10/29/16 at 12:34 am to
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Pot is a "deviant" behavior. By procuring it and using it, one often comes into contact with deviant subcultures that have different norms than mainstream society. As one continues to associate with that subculture, then other behaviors that one might have once consider aberrant can become normalized. Obviously, that didn't happen with you, but it DOES happen quite often.



Eh, If you are at a college party, whether you do drugs or not, there is going to be drugs there obviously. I was asked and offered cocaine and x multiple times, while under the influence of pot/alcohol and still refused.

Just because you smoke pot or used to, I don't view that as the same as going to a party and getting offered cocaine, and if that person chooses to snort some, GATEWAY DRUG!

I just don't know anyone in college that viewed marijuana like it was deviant, whip out cocaine or x and you may get a reaction, but not MJ. It was the same as alcohol, you were either grabbing cups of alcohol or passing around blunts.

I would even go as far to say that alcohol is a bigger gateway than marijuana, I have seen some really drunk dumbasses "try" cocaine or x for the first time mainly because they were drunk and said sure why the frick not.

Drunken mistakes aplenty, I don't know of many mistakes I have made or seen from someone just being stoned tbh.

BUT the way the media wants you to view the gateway title as "Oh man I've been smoking weed for 6th months I have a huge craving to shoot up heroine now!!!!" and that is just not how it works but that doesn't stop the media from fooling senior citizens who vote.
This post was edited on 10/29/16 at 12:41 am
Posted by vengeanceofrain
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Posted on 10/29/16 at 4:45 am to
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The #1 thing that always pisses me off is when they call it a gateway drug.

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the 800 pound gorilla in the room is that the real gateway drug is pussy lol, not marijuina. party girls like to party hard.

i mean i don't know just a huge contingent of people who use but everyone that i do know started because of pussy. the day i first used a hard drug, i want to say november of 2004, that morning i wouldn't know what cocaine looked like if you put it next to me and couldn't roll a joint. i went on a date and a white bag broke out and when you're sitting in a bed with a naked woman and she lets you snort coke off her tits well dammit, i can just say no to drugs, but they don't make ad rug stronger than sex for a young adult male.


ironically enough i smoked my first full joint in my entire life only 2 months ago,i hate weed. I like stimulants with a small dose of opiates to take the edge off and I have a script for xanax which is 100000% necessary. my fiancee likes it though and she convinced me to try it. i still hate it.
This post was edited on 10/29/16 at 4:55 am
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65774 posts
Posted on 10/29/16 at 4:51 am to
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ironically enough i smoked my first full joint in my entire life only 2 months ago,i hate weed. my fiancee likes it though and she convinced me to try it. i still hate it.



Got a keeper at least.

It's not for everyone, just like drinking isn't, and I don't drink but do smoke.
This post was edited on 10/29/16 at 4:54 am
Posted by vengeanceofrain
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Member since Jun 2013
12465 posts
Posted on 10/29/16 at 4:51 am to
from personal experience, there is no such thing as gateway drug. in your mind, there are things you are okay with and things you are not okay with. id on't care for alcohol. i can be as high as a kite and wont' drink. i don't like to drink. no amount of drugs is going to make me want to drink more than babying a crown and coke or something. i don't get piss drunk and haven't been remotely intoxicated in over a decade.

i've been on super duper binges before and had girls pull out needles and instantly sobered up and kicked them the frick out. i don't frick with needles. there is no gateway to needles. that's some shite you were willing to do beforehand.


MJ should be legal because it should be taxable and Arkansas is dirt poor. Poor people are generally poor because they make decision after decision to kept hem poor. Arkansas is no different. Any time something comes along that can put more money in the states pocket they fall back on hillbilly morality and would rather stay in the poor house.
Posted by WonderWartHawg
Member since Dec 2010
10397 posts
Posted on 10/29/16 at 9:07 am to
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MJ should be legal because it should be taxable


I truly believe that THIS is the government's big issue with legalizing it. They want to make sure that they get their share of the money it would generate. Once they figure out how to regulate it like alchohol, and get the system in place (it already largely is), you won't see the Governor doing ads against it.
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