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re: LR > NWA: River Trail edition

Posted on 4/8/16 at 1:54 pm to
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 4/8/16 at 1:54 pm to
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LR has Pigfeet NWA > LR


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Posted by Raz4back
Member since Mar 2011
3950 posts
Posted on 4/8/16 at 2:19 pm to
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there are mountain hiking, biking and recreation areas within the city limits of Fayetteville as good as anything within 30 miles of Little Rock.


I agree with that. Actually far better than anything in central Arkansas.
Posted by hogfly
Fayetteville, AR
Member since May 2014
4640 posts
Posted on 4/8/16 at 2:37 pm to
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As for just outdoors activities like kayaking, hiking, etc, there are mountain hiking, biking and recreation areas within the city limits of Fayetteville as good as anything within 30 miles of Little Rock.


Went and rode Mt. Kessler on my lunch break today. We definitely have more of an outdoor culture for that sort of thing. It's also much prettier scenery up here.

They have a point about hunting and the amount of lakes, though.

I personally think that Russellville is a criminally underrated outdoor town as far as geography goes. But living there would suck. I grew up in Central Arkansas, and it seemed like just about every scout trip we went on took us through Russevllville as the jumping off point (and hitting Whataburger on the return trip was always the ritual. Whataburger is good enough. It's even better after a weekend in the woods eating crappy Boy Scout prepared food).




Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
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Posted on 4/8/16 at 2:59 pm to
Just imagine how much better Little Rock and C. Arkansas would be if the money thrown down the drain and the resulting decay of the city from the federal desegregation lawsuits was spent on actual education and school facilities rehab and construction and the community in general instead of the stripper's g-string that deseg has proven to be.
Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 4/8/16 at 6:39 pm to
It's true. The greatest thing Little Rock could do for its present and future would be to break up LRSD into about three districts, local to the neighborhoods, and let the chips fall.

All forced bussing and deseg has achieved is hollowing out the core of most big cities.
Posted by Pigfeet
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Posted on 4/8/16 at 8:38 pm to
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It's true. The greatest thing Little Rock could do for its present and future would be to break up LRSD into about three districts, local to the neighborhoods, and let the chips fall.

All forced bussing and deseg has achieved is hollowing out the core of most big cities.



Racist much, up there in those hills?
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
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Posted on 4/9/16 at 1:53 pm to
I just don't know why you wouldn't want all of your schools to be good quality schools that had flavor and personality and reflected the community around it instead of everything being bused and vanilla in a poor attempt of disguising equality and deseg from the money grab that it clearly was.

Have some pride in yourselves and your neighborhoods and make a damn effort to give ALL the kids a quality education and foundation for life.
Posted by Pigfeet
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Posted on 4/9/16 at 2:16 pm to
Oh if it was that easy.

LRSD will never be what it was. The only thing I can say is Google Waltons, LRSD and Baker Kurrus, dig a little deeper than the headlines/talking points. Things are in motion, hopefully.

That's about all I care to elaborate on.
Posted by Porker Face
Eden Isle
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 4/9/16 at 2:23 pm to
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Racist much, up there in those hills?


Are you a complete fool?

I've never seen anyone back the quality of Little Rock public education
Posted by Pigfeet
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Posted on 4/9/16 at 5:10 pm to
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I've never seen anyone back the quality of Little Rock public education



How many kids have you put through LRSD?
Posted by Porker Face
Eden Isle
Member since Feb 2012
15335 posts
Posted on 4/9/16 at 6:47 pm to
None, so I must have no clue

Never been to Antarctica either. I suppose it could be really warm there since I've never been
Posted by Pigfeet
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Posted on 4/9/16 at 8:43 pm to
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None, so I must have no clue


Your words, not mine.


Anyways, unless you raise weak minded children, you can still send kids through the LRSD and they can get full rides to any university in the world.

What is wrong with that?
This post was edited on 4/9/16 at 8:44 pm
Posted by Porker Face
Eden Isle
Member since Feb 2012
15335 posts
Posted on 4/9/16 at 9:36 pm to
Yeah, some kid can graduate from a high school in the 9th ward and get a scholarship too. I guess LR has an equally strong public education system

Kids at the top can still achieve and still have a chance. Nevermind the huge percentages of unprepared students just below them.

As long as we adjust our numbers for the factors of non-white, ESL and free reduced school lunch we meet our benchmarks! Nevermind some of these schools are literally 100% non-white, ESL AND free reduced school lunch! Let's adjust our numbers... As long as we have one kid get in to UALR our school beat expectations!!

These neighborhoods are producing zero students prepared for college in ANY subject. I wonder if this issue will continue to lead to blight, decay, crime, poverty, basically all the stuff that comes to mind when you think of LR already

But wait, a few kids from LRSD did well on the ACT. Nevermind all the blabbering I just did. Clearly the schools are fine

Good thing they are almost done widening the interstate to Conway. The white people can just move further away. Maumelle was getting a little too close for comfort anyway.
Posted by Pigfeet
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Posted on 4/9/16 at 10:42 pm to
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As long as we adjust our numbers for the factors of non-white, ESL and free reduced school lunch we meet our benchmarks! Nevermind some of these schools are literally 100% non-white, ESL AND free reduced school lunch! Let's adjust our numbers... As long as we have one kid get in to UALR our school beat expectations!!

These neighborhoods are producing zero students prepared for college in ANY subject. I wonder if this issue will continue to lead to blight, decay, crime, poverty, basically all the stuff that comes to mind when you think of LR already


Do you always breathe through your mouth or only when your cousins are around?

Your ignorance is showing, but please keep discussing
Posted by Porker Face
Eden Isle
Member since Feb 2012
15335 posts
Posted on 4/9/16 at 11:13 pm to
Cogent argument
Posted by Porker Face
Eden Isle
Member since Feb 2012
15335 posts
Posted on 4/9/16 at 11:26 pm to
If you and the LRSD are opposed to charter schools and other changes, maybe all that money the state was paying for the past few decades could've gone to improving outcomes instead of Lord knows where it went

If the school board could budget properly and actually make these schools decent maybe the Dept of Ed wouldn't feel the need to take over. I'm pretty sure the Waltons could find another area with extremely fricked up public education and go play in that sandbox. However, when LR is the wart on the nose in their home region...why wouldn't they take a stab at it. Obvisouly locals a have proven ineffective.

By the way, whining from a bunch of people who could've done something doesn't hold a lot of sand for me. You say get beyond the headlines. Lol. Get beyond yourself and look at student outcomes. If you are satisfied, you must not care much about the future of the City of Little Rock, Central Arkansas or Arkansas. Or you are just a fool, which was my original hypothesis.
Posted by hogfly
Fayetteville, AR
Member since May 2014
4640 posts
Posted on 4/9/16 at 11:26 pm to
There's a reason E-stem has a waiting list 5,000 deep.
Posted by Pigfeet
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Member since Mar 2010
19783 posts
Posted on 4/10/16 at 6:29 am to
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If you and the LRSD are opposed to charter schools and other changes,


Show me where I've said anything of that sort


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If the school board could budget properly and actually make these schools decent maybe the Dept of Ed wouldn't feel the need to take over.


Again, look a little deeper, kiddo

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Obvisouly locals a have proven ineffective.


The same locals that created LR Christian, PA, CAC, Episcopal Collegiate, Arkansas Baptist, etc?

quote:

By the way, whining from a bunch of people who could've done something doesn't hold a lot of sand for me.


Federal deseg case said otherwise




Not sure why you won't just come out and say that the LRSD is too black, and white kids should be able go to "their neighborhood" school.

You should check your "White Privilege".

Posted by Porker Face
Eden Isle
Member since Feb 2012
15335 posts
Posted on 4/10/16 at 7:50 am to
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Show me where I've said anything of that sort 


Weasal words

quote:

Not sure why you won't just come out and say that the LRSD is too black, and white kids should be able go to "their neighborhood" school. 

You should check your "White Privilege". 


You should check your reading comprehension. It is my firm belief that LR public schools should be able to function like the thousands of public schools across America. I am not the world's biggest fan of charter schools either, I would rather have a strong public school system succeed first. But it's pretty clear LR is not producing. Time to try something else
Posted by Russvegas Dan
Member since Nov 2012
1180 posts
Posted on 4/10/16 at 12:59 pm to
Check your cards folks, I'm getting pretty close.

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