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re: Is Mike on the hot seat?

Posted on 3/8/16 at 8:50 am to
Posted by tonic
Member since Oct 2009
439 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 8:50 am to
Losing 90% of your scoring is grounds for your team to be picked lower by the media.

Kentucky is the only team in the league that can lose that much production and still be selected high.

We have talent coming back next year and a good recruiting class, we will be picked higher than 11th next year. If Kingsley leaves, we might be picked 11 again and the media would be justified.
Posted by Ham Solo
Member since Apr 2015
7731 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 8:52 am to
quote:

big tin foil hat


There is no tin foil hat about it. Talking about the cheating is not a cop out. It is devastating us in basketball and football right now. We have lost major recruits because of it. These guys were all ready to come here and when the time came they asked for a payoff. They are told it's not happening and they run off to whatever school is willing to meet their demand.
Posted by tonic
Member since Oct 2009
439 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 8:55 am to
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Its his job to make the program relevant, and in 5 years, he is failing


Relevance doesn't get revived in 5 years when the program has been irrelevant for 15 years before Anderson took over the program.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 8:59 am to
quote:

These guys were all ready to come here and when the time came they asked for a payoff. They are told it's not happening and they run off to whatever school is willing to meet their demand.


You have no proof of that so no point in bringing it up.
Posted by Ham Solo
Member since Apr 2015
7731 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 9:02 am to
If we could meet in person I could tell you names and dollar amounts that were asked for. Just not going to do it on an open message board.
Posted by Person of interest
The Hill
Member since Jan 2014
1786 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 9:08 am to
Why not? Expose the cheating bastards that are responsible for the downfall of our Hogs.
Posted by Ham Solo
Member since Apr 2015
7731 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 9:11 am to
quote:

Why not? Expose the cheating bastards that are responsible for the downfall of our Hogs


Be patient. The truth will get out eventually.
Posted by Hawgeye
tFlagship Brothel
Member since Jun 2009
31068 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 9:12 am to
quote:

Losing 90% of your scoring is grounds for your team to be picked lower by the media.


And losing 90% of your scoring and only enrolling ONE player is grounds for me to question the coaches work ethic on the recruiting trail.

I mean, you do understand we only signed ONE player this past recruiting cycle, right?

That is just unfathomable to me considering Mike's style. He likes to run and play in your face defense...He should never sign ONE player when he is losing that much.

quote:

Kentucky is the only team in the league that can lose that much production and still be selected high.

Its not about being Kentucky. At all. It is about being Arkansas. It is about playing the brand of basketball Mike wants to play, which is similar to what Nolan played.

Nolan didn't recruit all scorers. The 1994 team had scorers in Thurman and Williamson...defense in McDaniel...floor general in Beck...hot shooter off the bench in Dillard.

It is not about recruiting the high profile kids in this system...It is more about a collection of role players to go with your two or three stars. Mike hasn't even been getting role players. This is what makes me mad. Nobody is asking for a slew of 5 stars, or one and done players, but most of us know what he needs to have this system work. One and done players aren't always going to work in his system. His system isn't going to be a favorite of theirs.

He can't go a recruiting cycle and only sign one kid when 4 leave. It just isn't going to work, at all.

quote:

We have talent coming back next year and a good recruiting class

There is some talent coming back. We will see what Kingsley decides, but we do return Hannahs. We lose Durham, Bell, Kuassi(sp), and Miles. So we lose the floor general, our best shooter, and two bench players.

The recruiting class is yet to be seen. I am always nervous about JUCOs. Usually, their second year is their best. I don't want to wait another year. Hopefully they come in and mesh well and everything goes as planned.

Posted by Hawgeye
tFlagship Brothel
Member since Jun 2009
31068 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 9:17 am to
Also, do not get the idea that I hate Mike. I don't. I want him to be here for as long as he is a basketball coach.

I was happy when we hired him. I wanted him hired here before.

Sometimes, you just have to put personal feelings aside and see the lack of progress in the program in year 5. It is disappointing so far. 27 wins was great last year, but he was not prepared at all to grow on that season with the departures.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 9:29 am to
quote:


Why not? Expose the cheating bastards that are responsible for the downfall of our Hogs.




If you really had proof and wanted to expose them then you could

Many ways to be anonymous about it
Posted by Ham Solo
Member since Apr 2015
7731 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 10:09 am to
quote:

If you really had proof and wanted to expose them then you could

Many ways to be anonymous about it


Like I said. Be patient.
Posted by Porker Face
Eden Isle
Member since Feb 2012
15346 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 10:09 am to
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Relevance doesn't get revived in 5 years when the program has been irrelevant for 15 years before Anderson took over the program.


Making the tournament = first step to relevance. We are 1 for 5
This post was edited on 3/8/16 at 10:10 am
Posted by STLhog
Nashville, TN
Member since Jan 2015
17718 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 10:40 am to
quote:

Making the tournament = first step to relevance. We are 1 for 5


Technically 1 for 4.

There's still a chance bro!
Posted by oklahogjr
Gold Membership
Member since Jan 2010
36765 posts
Posted on 3/9/16 at 9:37 am to
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Making the tournament = first step to relevance. We are 1 for 5
just giving Mike the benefit of the doubt here to pad his stats were 2 of 5 making the offseason at all if you count getting bounced round 1 of the nit.
Posted by Pigfeet
Ark Mods are Fascists
Member since Mar 2010
19783 posts
Posted on 3/9/16 at 9:57 am to
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Talking about the cheating is not a cop out.



If you think all friends of a program, except ours, aren't breaking the rules, then I don't know what to tell you. Its happening at every one of them, including ours.

Its all about the scope and scale of the influence.

So the ' All skools cheat suppus" arguement is garbage. Mike is getting it handed to him because of his own philosophy. He's not Nolan, and he can't take the same stance that Nolan did.
Posted by Hog on the Hill
AR
Member since Jun 2009
13389 posts
Posted on 3/9/16 at 10:12 am to
I haven't posted in this 24 page thread yet and it just seems like I should. I don't give a frick about basketball this year.
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37299 posts
Posted on 3/9/16 at 10:42 am to
it went almost a day without popping to the top. i thought maybe it got anchored or every one got tired of repeating the same shite over and over but alas that does not seem to be the case.
Posted by Pigfeet
Ark Mods are Fascists
Member since Mar 2010
19783 posts
Posted on 3/9/16 at 10:45 am to
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or every one got tired of repeating the same shite over and over


Just to keep the repetitive trend going:

Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37299 posts
Posted on 3/9/16 at 10:55 am to
i am a good cook.
Posted by Pigfeet
Ark Mods are Fascists
Member since Mar 2010
19783 posts
Posted on 3/9/16 at 11:05 am to
meth?
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