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re: Is Mike on the hot seat?

Posted on 3/7/16 at 1:32 pm to
Posted by Porker Face
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Posted on 3/7/16 at 1:32 pm to
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With the soft nonconference schedules
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Hmmm? What was that about soft conference schedule??


Read much?
Posted by tonic
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Posted on 3/7/16 at 1:35 pm to
Oh, my apologies. It was meant to say: Soft nonconference schedule. Who has the weakest of those two??

If Arkansas had played the 265th ranked SOS, 20+ wins wouldn't be out of the question.

Your comparison is wrong.
Posted by Porker Face
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Posted on 3/7/16 at 1:39 pm to
I'm not saying firing Mike is the best decision. But I'm not happy with his results. Is anyone?

The thread says "Is Mike on the hot seat". Newsflash, the fact there is a 400+ reply thread screams yes. Should he be fired? I don't know. Should we 100% rule it out? No.

What I don't get from the Mike defenders is they seem happy with his results. Because that's what they use to back him up.

The Mike defenders who want to keep him based on his potential I understand a little more. There is a logical case to be made IMO to keep him based on potential for future success. But basing it on a lackluster track record isn't convincing me.

The only major "forecasting" that can be done with coaches is recruiting. Ability to trend the program upward using future players. Mike hasn't convinced me of his skills in this area. He has plenty of time and opportunities with players from nearby.

No one was more excited for hiring Mike than me. I didn't "hate him from the start" and I don't hate him now. I just think he has had a pretty damn fair crack at it and he has failed thus far. Time to give someone else an opportunity
Posted by Porker Face
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Posted on 3/7/16 at 1:40 pm to
I'm basing it on when Mike was at UAB genius.

I don't think UABs SOS has changed so much since Mike left that the comparison is invalid
Posted by RazorbackLaw501
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Posted on 3/7/16 at 1:45 pm to
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Posted by tonic
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Posted on 3/7/16 at 1:52 pm to
He hasn't failed, that is the issue I take with what your saying. He has performed better than the last two coaches and Anderson has a proven track record of success.

Anderson had 1 bad recruiting year that happened to coincide with losing a lot of production, some unexpected losses. Anderson has since put together a good recruiting class and has quality players coming back next year.

It would be a huge mistake for Anderson to be fired this year especially since he has taken a team that was gutted and put together a winning season, it's very clear he is a good coach.

Posted by tonic
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Posted on 3/7/16 at 1:54 pm to
If you were so smart then you could see that Anderson was better at UAB and made it further in the tournament than their current coach.

Genius.
Posted by STLhog
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Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 3/7/16 at 1:56 pm to
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ince you want to posit that there's been "off the court baggage" that has seemingly effected Mike Anderson's progress


Huh?

I'm saying he has ZERO off the court baggage unlike Heath and Pelphrey that helped push through their firings.

Not sure how you read it otherwise.

And WTF do I care about a POS Arkansas Fight Article?

Kingsley isn't a star? Hannahs isn't? I guess he gets no credit for either of those. What about Bell? He's only the 3rd best 3pt shooter in our school's history and leading the entire league.
Posted by piggilicious
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Posted on 3/7/16 at 2:00 pm to
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No one was more excited for hiring Mike than me


you sure about that? he came from missouri.

Posted by Porker Face
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Posted on 3/7/16 at 2:58 pm to
Us "stealing" him from them was fairly exciting at the time
This post was edited on 3/7/16 at 2:59 pm
Posted by Porker Face
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Posted on 3/7/16 at 3:04 pm to
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He hasn't failed, that is the issue I take with what your saying. He has performed better than the last two coaches and Anderson has a proven track record of success.


Here are the goals he set in his welcome back press conference:

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"I can promise you that no one will outwork Mike Anderson and his staff. We will get it back to the top. This program will be back to the top."


He has failed to achieve that goal

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"We're going to play an exciting brand of basketball," Anderson said. "But most importantly, we're going to play winning basketball."


Again. I don't count one game over 0.500 or 9th in the conference as "winning".

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Anderson said he anticipates to bring his entire staff from Missouri with him to Arkansas. Among those staff members are T.J. Cleveland, Anderson's nephew who lettered for the Razorbacks from 1999-2002, and Matt Zimmerman, a UA grad who spent time as a graduate assistant for the Razorbacks.

"As of right now I think they will all be coming here," Anderson said. "We've been very successful. If it ain't broke, don't fix it."


Again

He could've said anything in the world in his press conference. These are his words. He isn't living up to his own billing

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This post was edited on 3/7/16 at 3:07 pm
Posted by piggilicious
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Posted on 3/7/16 at 3:07 pm to
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Us "stealing" him from them was fairly exciting at the time


i should have considered that, you're into cheating so you'd be into stealing too. duh.
Posted by Porker Face
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Posted on 3/7/16 at 3:12 pm to
I'm into pushing the envelope, sure. I'm also into winning.

A clean hire away from another school sounds good to me, and should to everyone. 100% clean
Posted by tonic
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Posted on 3/7/16 at 3:12 pm to
Seeing as his coaching tenure isn't over and won't be this year, his goals are still attainable.

Your math skills are terrible if you don't count above .500 as "winning" because it is. 9th in conference for this team is exceeding expectations as we were picked to place 11th by the media.

Anderson saying positive things and setting positive goals in his introductory press conference is so unusual for a coach to do, we should have fired him as soon as he spewed it out of his mouth.
Posted by Porker Face
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Posted on 3/7/16 at 3:15 pm to
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Your math skills are terrible if you don't count above .500 as "winning" because it is


Winning means winning things. Postseason games. That was what he meant when he set that goal

Please tell me he meant "we will be .516 overall and .500 in conference with no postseason in sight" when he set that goal
Posted by tonic
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 3/7/16 at 3:24 pm to
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That was what he meant when he set that goal


Ok, what coach wouldn't set that as a goal?

Anderson will win here, he has shown that he can.

Will we ever be back up to the level our program was in the 90's? Time will tell and Mike gives us a good chance to do that.
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 3/7/16 at 3:27 pm to
We've gone from beating a dead horse to outright molesting it.

Is Mike on the the hot seat? Well it might not be hot but it isn't a block of ice. He has been underwhelming to be honest. Still he will be back next year and then we will see if he is still our coach at the end of that season.

He is not the best recruiter and his game plan of constant pressure does not seem to work very well in the modern (and horribly ugly) college game. But we should have a pretty good team next year so lets see what he brings to the dance.

If he makes the dance. High stakes bring out the best in someone, well next year its the NCAAT and don't look like a turd for MA or bust. And I'm fine with that.
Posted by STLhog
Nashville, TN
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 3/7/16 at 3:53 pm to
Well shite, now what do we have to talk about?

Who has the biggest house on Razorback Row?

Not sure which one is Burt's, I think Petrino's old one def. took the cake but a few of those are monsters out there.
Posted by RazorbackLaw501
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Posted on 3/7/16 at 4:50 pm to
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Posted by cigsmcgee
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Posted on 3/7/16 at 5:15 pm to
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Why do I think that? I believe that because he couldn't break the 2nd round of the tournament with a 1st-round draft pick, and two other good, veteran players.


you throw this line out there like it was a major shock we lost to one of the most talented teams in college basketball.
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