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If we need to build the program back up...

Posted on 11/27/23 at 2:59 pm
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25198 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 2:59 pm
Why not the guy who specializes in building programs from the ground up? I know we aren't looking, but we should be, and why not Jerry Kill at NMSU?

He's not a spring chicken at 62 but he's younger than Pittman and he's been successful at every place he's been. Okay, .500 at Minnesota when he was coaching while next to death due to cancer. Given it was the Gophers and he kept having seizures on the sideline from the cancer I'm inclined to give him the nod on that one.

Kill won't win a national title for us. But he could probably build a fairly decent overall program and at this point wouldn't we be happy with that for a few years?
Posted by ArmyHogs
Your mom's house
Member since Feb 2012
9255 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 3:08 pm to
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Kill won't win a national title for us


If that’s our threshold for hiring the next coach, shut the football program down and invest in basketball and baseball lol
Posted by RazorHawg
Member since Aug 2013
24305 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 3:15 pm to
No doubt we need to hire a program builder.

IMO it would also be wise of us to only pay the HC $2-3 mil and then spend the other millions on the players to get the best roster we can compile.

I'm not talking about spending all on one or two top end 5-stars but players who fit the scheme/system and want playing time from these top programs.

It wont happen because HY doesn't like paying players and Arkansas won't be the first to try something like this but teams who aren't at the top will experiment with a strategy like this in the next few years.

NFL revenue is shared between players and owners with the NCAA moving this way HC's in the NFL make like 5-10% unless one of the elites.
Posted by V Bainbridge
Member since Jul 2020
7795 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 3:20 pm to
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shut the football program down and invest in basketball and baseball lol

This is exactly what we are doing
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
16051 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 3:51 pm to
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Jerry Kill
had the exact same thought. Idk why he keeps getting overlooked but he’ll eventually get looked at by a bigger program again. Probably after next season (fingers crossed)
Posted by RazorBroncs
Harding Bisons Fan
Member since Sep 2013
13540 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 5:56 pm to
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Idk why he keeps getting overlooked


Heath issues is the only reason. The man can coach a team up and has been a winner everywhere he's been, despite inheriting some dumpster fires over the years. His history is very impressive and he seems like a lunch pail kind of coach, we'd be fortunate to hire someone like him when the Pittman experiment inevitably fails
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71468 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 8:06 pm to
We need to find a coach that hates losing. You don’t compete unless you expect to win. That doesn’t mean you will win them all but it’s a different mentality and one someone should have when making millions of dollars.
Posted by dammitbert
Member since Aug 2016
626 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 10:03 pm to
If we're looking at Minnesota coaches, I'd take PJ Fleck over Kill. 2 9 win seasons and an 11 win season in the last 5 years. Having a down year this year... May be able to get him at a bargain if we tried.
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21273 posts
Posted on 11/27/23 at 10:06 pm to
I don't think his personality would be a good fit in Arkansas.
Posted by Clark14
L.A.Hog
Member since Dec 2014
19376 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 1:31 am to
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If we're looking at Minnesota coaches, I'd take PJ Fleck over Kill. 2 9 win seasons and an 11 win season in the last 5 years. Having a down year this year... May be able to get him at a bargain if we tried.


Aranda had an 11 win year, let’s jump on him!
Posted by ArHog
Muss is a coward
Member since Jan 2008
33069 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 6:10 am to
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Aranda had an 11 win year, let’s jump on him!


Damn, some of y'all are just spit balling names that you know good and well have no interest in boarding a sinking ship.


Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
7215 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 7:33 am to
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If we're looking at Minnesota coaches, I'd take PJ Fleck over Kill. 2 9 win seasons and an 11 win season in the last 5 years. Having a down year this year... May be able to get him at a bargain if we tried.


He plays in the weaker side of an overall weaker conference. The open conference next year will lead to no more 9 wins.

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Aranda had an 11 win year, let’s jump on him!


He isn’t boisterous at all, he wouldn’t fit in here. He isn’t a rah rah guy. He also has collapsed the past two years, and is on the hot seat.

He also isn’t a flip flopper, he will stay there until fired.
Posted by Rzrbackguy
Apalachicola, FL
Member since Jul 2014
2216 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 7:35 am to
Hire guys like this as consultants or analyst or whatever Saban is calling them nowadays.

Put a good one in the booth on the headsets with a Batline to Sam so that when he’s lost he can get some help.
Posted by Clark14
L.A.Hog
Member since Dec 2014
19376 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 3:49 pm to
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Damn, some of y'all are just spit balling names that you know good and well have no interest in boarding a sinking ship.


Sarcasm….haha
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