Started By
Message
I warned you about this antiquated offense
Posted on 9/17/23 at 7:28 am
Posted on 9/17/23 at 7:28 am
This crap is past its prime and won't do well in modern college football FOR US. I love KJ but he just isn't a read type of QB. Briles was a great fit for him because of his style.
We aren't playing to KJs strengths and that's a shame. Our plays look slow and non creative. It was frustrating watching the BYU offense run multiple sets with motion, misdirection, and creativity.
We aren't playing to KJs strengths and that's a shame. Our plays look slow and non creative. It was frustrating watching the BYU offense run multiple sets with motion, misdirection, and creativity.
8
Posted on 9/17/23 at 7:34 am to boogiewoogie1978
I really hoped Enos had evolved his offense when it was announced he was hired. Because there is not a worse fit in the world than our 2015 offense and KJ.
We really needed to hold onto Briles one more year.
We really needed to hold onto Briles one more year.
Posted on 9/17/23 at 7:39 am to boogiewoogie1978
Some of us pointed out that Enos has been mediocre for a while and got bombarded with "But 2015..."
Posted on 9/17/23 at 9:27 am to The Sultan of Swine
They’d probably never do this, but I’m wondering how Criswell would do in this offense compared to KJ?
Posted on 9/17/23 at 11:43 am to Hogssmellgood
quote:
They’d probably never do this, but I’m wondering how Criswell would do in this offense compared to KJ?
Better. No doubt in my mind.
Posted on 9/17/23 at 12:13 pm to boogiewoogie1978
Someone on Reddit summed up Enos’s playcalling quite well:
1st down - delayed handoff
2nd down - short pass
3rd down - KJ figure it out
1st down - delayed handoff
2nd down - short pass
3rd down - KJ figure it out
Posted on 9/17/23 at 12:42 pm to boogiewoogie1978
We’re running a Georgia offense with Mississippi state talent.
Posted on 9/17/23 at 12:53 pm to boogiewoogie1978
I've never coached football so I legitimately don't know the answer, but is it frowned upon for a new OC to go back and take plays out of the old OC's playbook or something?
I expected Enos to do some studying on Briles' playbook with KJ at QB to find the successful plays, formations, reads, etc that worked in the past. But this offense is nothing even remotely resembling that, it's like we scrapped everything that worked in the past.
I always thought Enos would be a blend of Briles and his own offense as long as KJ was the QB, while limiting the boneheaded mistakes and having more situational awareness than Briles. Turns out he just installed 100% of his own offense
Posted on 9/17/23 at 1:30 pm to RazorBroncs
quote:correct I guess I never thought people would think otherwise. Every coach is going to do that. Just look at Mississippi state and what they’re doing. If you have a coaching change but want a similar style you better go get a coach from the same tree otherwise it’s going to be completely different. Because football coaches have too much pride in doing it “their way”
Turns out he just installed 100% of his own offense
Posted on 9/17/23 at 1:58 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
quote:
correct I guess I never thought people would think otherwise.
I guess I should phrase that differently. I knew he would install his own base offense and plays that he's ran for years, but I figured he'd also go back and watch tape of Briles' offense and individual plays that worked well with KJ, and install some of those on top of his.
I don't recall seeing any of that yet
Posted on 9/17/23 at 3:21 pm to RazorBroncs
Well i noticed we ran power read once, kj gashed them, then the next play we ran outside zone for an aj green td and I don’t remember us ever going. Back to it
Posted on 9/17/23 at 3:36 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
quote:
Because football coaches have too much pride in doing it “their way”
This is why I love Musselman. In his first season he had no one who fits his "scheme" but adjusted to maximize the roster he had
Posted on 9/18/23 at 10:51 am to boogiewoogie1978
Defense still gave up 38, right? I guess now that Briles is gone the offense gets all the blame.
I guess we had a lot of fans crushing on Briles.
I guess we had a lot of fans crushing on Briles.
This post was edited on 9/18/23 at 10:57 am
Posted on 9/18/23 at 10:57 am to troyt37
quote:
I guess we had a lot of fans crushing on Briles.
Posted on 9/18/23 at 11:03 am to troyt37
quote:defense didn’t play great, but 5 of their 6 scoring drives were from their 40 and in. Also, we had a fg after a turnover on their side of the field, and a touchdown on a punt return so enos only accounted for 21 points, not 31. He put the defense in some really bad spots, which I agree, briles did as well at times last year, but the defense is clearly better than we were last year.
Defense still gave up 38, right? I guess now that Briles is gone the offense gets all the blame.
Posted on 9/18/23 at 11:17 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
quote:
defense didn’t play great, but 5 of their 6 scoring drives were from their 40 and in. Also, we had a fg after a turnover on their side of the field, and a touchdown on a punt return so enos only accounted for 21 points, not 31. He put the defense in some really bad spots, which I agree, briles did as well at times last year, but the defense is clearly better than we were last year.
I'm just getting it out there, because last year lots of folks here wanted to blame Liberty, aTm, and LSU on the defense. Saturday the defense gives up 38 and all anyone seems to want to talk about is Enos.
The fact is, we have some veteran players in the right places, but we have a new OC and a new DC, and a beloved HC who probably has a 10 win ceiling even when everything goes well.
This post was edited on 9/18/23 at 11:24 am
Posted on 9/18/23 at 11:20 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
I wanted Briles to stay and for him to actually be unleashed, get a better DC and recruit better if it’s killing your defense rotations.
However, I feel like a two tight end 60/40 passing offensive coordinator would be the future right now.
It seems to be what Georgia/Alabama wants to run because of small linebackers can bulldozed by running backs and tight ends, if they switch them out on you, you pass.
However, I feel like a two tight end 60/40 passing offensive coordinator would be the future right now.
It seems to be what Georgia/Alabama wants to run because of small linebackers can bulldozed by running backs and tight ends, if they switch them out on you, you pass.
Posted on 9/18/23 at 12:14 pm to FayetteNAM
I'm probably the only one here that thinks we have talent on the o-line, just a shitty o-line coach. What pisses me off about that is Pittman is an o-line coach, and a damn good one.
These things happen, though, and it's weird. Les Miles was an offensive coach but generally had horrible offenses at LSU (this is a list that could go on and on).
You'd think Pittman could visually see, during practice, that our o-line coach isn't coaching properly. If I were Pittman I would fire him today and coach the o-line myself.
As far as the defense goes, I don't think they played terribly, they were put in some really bad spots. They're most certainly better than last year. Sometimes it's feast or famine, but that's what you get with an aggressive D. Personally, I'm ok with that.
To the topic at hand, I supported the hire. My thought was he had made some modifications since he was here last. Well, he hasn't, it's stale and predictable. The sad part is a single change could make all the difference in the world - you have a horse for a QB, on 3rd or 4th from a yard or less run him from under center with the biggest, strongest somebitch on the team trailing him. It won't matter that the D knows it's coming, they can't stop it.
These things happen, though, and it's weird. Les Miles was an offensive coach but generally had horrible offenses at LSU (this is a list that could go on and on).
You'd think Pittman could visually see, during practice, that our o-line coach isn't coaching properly. If I were Pittman I would fire him today and coach the o-line myself.
As far as the defense goes, I don't think they played terribly, they were put in some really bad spots. They're most certainly better than last year. Sometimes it's feast or famine, but that's what you get with an aggressive D. Personally, I'm ok with that.
To the topic at hand, I supported the hire. My thought was he had made some modifications since he was here last. Well, he hasn't, it's stale and predictable. The sad part is a single change could make all the difference in the world - you have a horse for a QB, on 3rd or 4th from a yard or less run him from under center with the biggest, strongest somebitch on the team trailing him. It won't matter that the D knows it's coming, they can't stop it.
Posted on 9/18/23 at 12:33 pm to TheOtherWhiteMeat
I agree. I think we have talent on the line that isn't being developed. We're not aggressive at all.
Posted on 9/18/23 at 1:50 pm to silverstreak
It's sad... like he can't get out of his own way offensively.
Blows right past the obvious playcall trying to get to something cute....
the swing pass to Dominique sums it all up.... clearly it doesn't matter which back you swing... they will be open because it was a man beater... but instead of swinging Dubinion you swing a guy that is clearly not the same since his injury and can't make one man miss.
I saw 1 clear RPO all night... KJ pulled it and threw a strike to Armstrong on the Glance. Did we go back... NOPE
makes me want to vomit. Colorado putting up video game numbers with smoke and mirrors and we can't move the ball consistently with superior talent.
Blows right past the obvious playcall trying to get to something cute....
the swing pass to Dominique sums it all up.... clearly it doesn't matter which back you swing... they will be open because it was a man beater... but instead of swinging Dubinion you swing a guy that is clearly not the same since his injury and can't make one man miss.
I saw 1 clear RPO all night... KJ pulled it and threw a strike to Armstrong on the Glance. Did we go back... NOPE
makes me want to vomit. Colorado putting up video game numbers with smoke and mirrors and we can't move the ball consistently with superior talent.
Page 1 of 3
Latest Arkansas News
Popular
Back to top
Follow SECRant for SEC Football News