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re: I want pj fleck
Posted on 1/2/17 at 8:26 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Posted on 1/2/17 at 8:26 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Again what you are stating has nothing to do with it. Fleck is not a big name in the south, he is going to need to hire big name assistants to recruit the south, Arkansas has never allowed that kind of budget then the jealous peasants will be complaing about salary when the win column doesn't match bamas who would have less invested for coaching salaries at that point...
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Posted on 1/2/17 at 8:29 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
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8 regular season wins I should've clarified
Ya, that is what I assume. I think he would have a higher win total than Bert here after 4 years but I don't think it would be much more. We could do better imo.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 8:31 pm to DaleDenton
Who are the jealous peasants your talking about? I understand that even if we payed more than Bama we wouldn't have their success, but maybe we could have a coach good enough to get us 9 or 10 wins every 5 years or so which would make me very happy
Posted on 1/2/17 at 10:47 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
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don't think we would win as much either. But I think he could have an 8 or 9 win season here every few years at least which is all I really wanna see. Maybe hit double digits every 3 or 4 years
Well, your not gonna like this, I am sure... However, I cant stand Malzahn in any shape, way, or form.
He recruits dirty, plays dirty, is dirty imho. Have never liked him as a coach or other. And he wouldn't win 7 game the first 3 years at Arkansas with Jeff Long as DC demanding accountability in the GPA/Behavior department.
Plus we aren't that far away from what you said above...Directly from you "I think he could have an 8 or 9 win season here every few years at least which is all I really wanna see."
Posted on 1/2/17 at 10:57 pm to Razorback Reverend
The problem is we've been close for 3 years with pretty good teams and other than 2014, the sec hasn't been just outstanding. The problem is close isn't gonna cut it. As I've said in another thread nothing would make me happier than to be proven wrong but I just don't see it happening.
And if we have an ad that cares more about having the best GPA in the sec than winning games then that is a big problem right there. Idc what the GPA of the players are as long as they're eligible and we win. If we can do both great, but you're an ad. Your priority should be athletics
And if we have an ad that cares more about having the best GPA in the sec than winning games then that is a big problem right there. Idc what the GPA of the players are as long as they're eligible and we win. If we can do both great, but you're an ad. Your priority should be athletics
This post was edited on 1/2/17 at 10:59 pm
Posted on 1/2/17 at 11:02 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
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And if we have an ad that cares more about having the best GPA in the sec than winning games then that is a big problem right there
Why do people make this stuff up?
Posted on 1/2/17 at 11:10 pm to TheCheshireHog
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Why do people make this stuff up?
it fits an agenda and narrative...
The condition of our APR prior to CBB was horrific, he has definitely cleaned it up. The off the field issues were greater as well, also cleaned up a bit.
Now will it translate to the field?
Posted on 1/2/17 at 11:10 pm to DaleDenton
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The fact that the complaints of the program are solely on the field should clue you in to that...
Man that's wonderful and all, but wins matter. People don't fill Razorback stadium to see that shite.
ETA: not that it discounts any of that, but one of our senior leaders just shoplifted from a department store that had already given him $450.
This post was edited on 1/2/17 at 11:14 pm
Posted on 1/2/17 at 11:27 pm to Arkansasrazorback
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ETA: not that it discounts any of that, but one of our senior leaders just shoplifted from a department store that had already given him $450.
Having been in and around the program for a while now. This is a minor thing when compared to the Nutt/Petrino teams. Weapons, Drugs, Sex Assaults, so much it was unbelievable. Much swept under the rug. We are clean as a whistle when compared to that.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 11:35 pm to Razorback Reverend
I don't wanna crook running the show and im glad beilama cleaned the place up but his no.1 priority is still to win.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 11:36 pm to TheCheshireHog
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he wouldn't win 7 game the first 3 years at Arkansas with Jeff Long as DC demanding accountability in the GPA/Behavior department.
I'm just going off what reverend said
Posted on 1/2/17 at 11:47 pm to DaleDenton
I hope Bert gets the ship back afloat, but I have major concerns regarding his abilities as a coach. I said it before and I'll stand by my thoughts on Bielema....his coaching abilities are somewhere between dale nutt and Petrino.
That identity could be viewed as soft and/or one that chokes.
His conference record is 10-22.
A coach is ultimately judged by results on Saturday's. All the other stuff is light background noise.
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He has established his team's identity
That identity could be viewed as soft and/or one that chokes.
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and turned the program around.
His conference record is 10-22.
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The fact that the complaints of the program are solely on the field should clue you in to that...
A coach is ultimately judged by results on Saturday's. All the other stuff is light background noise.
Posted on 1/3/17 at 1:52 am to Arkapigdiesel
that's the problem in the past...
The background noise in the past drowned out any success on the field. TO the point that recruiting, support, etal was a major problem.
The background noise is little at all now, but the winning has to begin soon or the rest will not be allowed to continue.
I guess the question is, what is harder..
1. Cleaning up a program to the point that success in expected in life, and it translates to the field.
2. or winning on the field to the point it translates to life.
I seem to believe there are a lot of winners on the field that lose in life. One leads to the other, not usually vice versa.
I haven't let go of the rope yet.
However, if CBB wants to be able to continue he must start getting the performance on the field that he has achieved in the classroom, facilities, behavior, and financial support.
Dale alludes to this often, and he is correct.. We may wind up with CBB gone, and a winner for a couple of years with the system, discipline CBB has in place, only to have it fall apart once more.
Would we accept another 2 seasons of 7-9 wins if we knew that three years from now we would reach 10-11 wins and in a new years 6 bowl?
Just for consideration...
The background noise in the past drowned out any success on the field. TO the point that recruiting, support, etal was a major problem.
The background noise is little at all now, but the winning has to begin soon or the rest will not be allowed to continue.
I guess the question is, what is harder..
1. Cleaning up a program to the point that success in expected in life, and it translates to the field.
2. or winning on the field to the point it translates to life.
I seem to believe there are a lot of winners on the field that lose in life. One leads to the other, not usually vice versa.
I haven't let go of the rope yet.
However, if CBB wants to be able to continue he must start getting the performance on the field that he has achieved in the classroom, facilities, behavior, and financial support.
Dale alludes to this often, and he is correct.. We may wind up with CBB gone, and a winner for a couple of years with the system, discipline CBB has in place, only to have it fall apart once more.
Would we accept another 2 seasons of 7-9 wins if we knew that three years from now we would reach 10-11 wins and in a new years 6 bowl?
Just for consideration...
Posted on 1/3/17 at 8:30 am to Razorback Reverend
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Would we accept another 2 seasons of 7-9 wins if we knew that three years from now we would reach 10-11 wins and in a new years 6 bowl?
Of course and I think most would agree but that is why this can be so difficult. No one knows shite about the future
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I haven't let go of the rope yet
No one really should at this point because Bret is going to be here another two years. Nothing wrong with the criticism he receives but I think people need to keep an open mind as a whole because he is going to be here whether they like it or not.
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