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Posted on 9/22/15 at 8:17 pm to Jack Ruby
Didn't Nebraska show some interest in him?
Posted on 9/22/15 at 11:00 pm to STLhog
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Has Bret recruited a single impact player other than Collins?
You'll probably never hear me say this again, but I think Collins was vastly overrated as the #1 RB by 247 and have since the first time I watched his highlight video. I'm a big fan, but it's not because he's a great RB.
The only place I question if Bret's recruited impact players is at the skill positions. I can't even begin to understand what's going on, but I wonder if it has something to do with his standards with player ethics, because it's not that they're all telling him 'no'.
Posted on 9/22/15 at 11:12 pm to redeye
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You'll probably never hear me say this again, but I think Collins was vastly overrated as the #1 RB by 247 and have since the first time I watched his highlight video. I'm a big fan, but it's not because he's a great RB.
this is the truth. I thought the guy looked great on his highlight video but quickly have shuffled him down the line of greatness. i think looking back now i thought his short playing career was a positive and we could polish him up to be grear. in saying this there was a reason why he was the second back. Jwill was the man. probably masked alot of the Oline's problems by just going full speed and hitting the line.
Posted on 9/22/15 at 11:29 pm to presidenthog
I disagree. I think it was JWill who was severely underrated by the recruiting services and not AC3 being severely overrated.
Posted on 9/23/15 at 12:49 am to STLhog
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I meant actually doing things in the games. I realize they're young
It takes time for his recruits to catch up to more experienced players. You can't expect his 1st and 2nd year recruits to come in and make immediate impact over experienced juniors and seniors in most cases.
Just look at the QB position. There's no doubt that our best QB is on the bench this year (Town or Storey). But no one would expect a true freshman QB to take the job from a 5th year senior unless the talent discrepancy were huge.
I know you don't want to hear it but it takes time to see the potential of his recruits play out. Use Agim as an example. He's the biggest recruit in memory but we won't see his full potential until he's a junior or senior. Depending on if he redshirts/leaves early that may not be until 2019 or 2020.
Posted on 9/23/15 at 6:07 am to STLhog
Collins has taken too much blame. I thought he has looked great so far other than the Toledo game, which apparently he was sick for.
Is he Darren McFadden? No. But I would take him over almost any other RB we've had recently. J-Will and McFadden might be the only two I would put ahead of him.
Is he Darren McFadden? No. But I would take him over almost any other RB we've had recently. J-Will and McFadden might be the only two I would put ahead of him.
Posted on 9/23/15 at 7:19 am to dbeck
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There's no doubt that our best QB is on the bench this year (Town or Storey).
So you've seen them play enough to make this statement.
Damn I hope BA beats aTm in the 4th qtr.
Posted on 9/23/15 at 11:45 am to The Sultan of Swine
Knile jwill and mcfadden
Posted on 9/23/15 at 12:50 pm to STLhog
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STLhog
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I didn't say impact players on paper.
Seriously, you're comparing the RS Seniors, Seniors, and RS Juniors on the team that Petrino/JLS recruited to the Juniors, RS Sophomores, Freshmen, and RS Freshmen that make up CBB's three recruiting classes related to the starting lineup like that is supposed to be a fair comparison of college ready impact players?
Then on top of that you're eliminating CBB's latest class from counting in the comparison because their projected talent level is "only on paper"?
Come on now.
This post was edited on 9/23/15 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 9/23/15 at 3:55 pm to presidenthog
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Knile jwill and mcfadden
AC3 > Knile
Posted on 9/23/15 at 4:28 pm to The Sultan of Swine
More durable for sure, but I might take 2010 Knile over AC right now, it's very close.
Top end speed isn't.
Top end speed isn't.
Posted on 9/23/15 at 8:20 pm to PygmalionEffect
2010 Knile is by far better than AC I'm sorry. your right the injuries no but he hasn't been injured in the pros and if he wasn't behind the most productive back in the NFL he would be starting. the dude was the fastest and strongest back at the combine. he was a very rare specimen. I'm sorry but that guy was a hoss.
Posted on 9/23/15 at 8:27 pm to presidenthog
In terms of production, AC3 has done something only McFadden has done here...
McFadden had Jones.
Knile had Johnson.
AC3 had Jwill until this year, no perceptions are starting to change towards him...
McFadden had Jones.
Knile had Johnson.
AC3 had Jwill until this year, no perceptions are starting to change towards him...
Posted on 9/25/15 at 5:07 am to presidenthog
Knile is overrated by most of our fans. He had gifted size and speed, yes. But Collins has better vision, shiftiness, and is a more hard-nosed runner. The only place Knile has the advantage is top-end speed, which is an over valued quality for runningbacks.
Knile is well-suited as a backup NFL RB, especially as a change of pace back. But I'm not sure he could be a feature back for a full season.
Knile is well-suited as a backup NFL RB, especially as a change of pace back. But I'm not sure he could be a feature back for a full season.
Posted on 9/25/15 at 9:16 am to The Sultan of Swine
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Knile is overrated by most of our fans. He had gifted size and speed, yes. But Collins has better vision, shiftiness, and is a more hard-nosed runner. The only place Knile has the advantage is top-end speed, which is an over valued quality for runningbacks.
Dude no.
Knile in his prime, when healthy ala LSU and Sugar bowl 2010 was up there with the best we've had.
He was that good. I'd say he's underrated because he was injured so often.
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