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Posted on 7/29/17 at 1:27 pm to Columbia
I heard Biddy's reports from the first two days of media availability.
QB - Allen, Storey, Kelley
RB - Whaley, M Williams, D Williams
FB - K Jackson, H Johnson
TE - Cantrell, O'Grady, Kraus, H Johnson, Gragg, Gunter
WR - Cornelius (Nance took this spot yesterday with J-Red's injured back), Stewart, Pettway, Jones, Martin, Boateng. Hammond is in this group as the slot, motion guy.
OL
Jackson | Froholdt | Ragnow | Gibson | Wallace
Raulerson | Malone | Rogers | Merrick | P Ramirez
Clenin | Heinrich | Hannah | Adcock | Wagner
DL
Agim | Bijhon | TJ Smith
Guidry | Capps | Watts
Taylor | Hays | Hall
LB
Ramsey | Greenlaw | D Harris | Roesler
Eugene | Walker | G Morgan | Phillips
T Collins (Munson took this razor spot yesterday) | Fisher | J Harris| Bell
DB
Pulley | Coley FS | S Ramirez SS | Toliver
Tutt | Liddell FS | R Miller SS | Richardson
Hernandez | M Smith | Edwards | Calloway
Posted on 7/29/17 at 1:35 pm to RazorHawg
We fixin to win big with that line up on defense.
Posted on 7/29/17 at 10:28 pm to RazorHawg
quote:That's not even close to accurate. We were one completion away from making one of the most epic comebacks in the history of bowl games.
Including the Sugar bowl appearance were we did nothing with that momentum.
Posted on 7/29/17 at 10:30 pm to Drewbie
Or a fricking scoop and score.
Posted on 7/29/17 at 10:31 pm to russellvillehog
quote:God damnit I had completely repressed that memory.
Or a fricking scoop and score.
The one fricking time we need an Arkansas Razorback to not play fundamentally smart football and he does.
This post was edited on 7/29/17 at 10:32 pm
Posted on 7/29/17 at 10:40 pm to Drewbie
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That's not even close to accurate.
He's saying we did nothing in recruiting with the momentum we gained from going to the Sugar Bowl.
Posted on 7/29/17 at 10:42 pm to TheCheshireHog
Correct. We didn't build off that in any way to help our recruiting.
Posted on 7/30/17 at 3:33 am to TheCheshireHog
quote:We'll never know. We won 11 games the following year then after that he fell off the hog. We can say the players were busts, but honestly our program was not set up for any player to succeed after that.
He's saying we did nothing in recruiting with the momentum we gained from going to the Sugar Bowl.
Posted on 7/30/17 at 4:34 am to Drewbie
2013 was 100% a 8-4 year at best under bobby. We fell apart because of what happened. we have less value in Bert than people outside this state. Im giving him one last year to show me something. I'm sure I'm not the only one.
Posted on 7/30/17 at 8:20 am to Feral
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Can't remember the number offhand but it was an unsustainable turnover rate that ended up biting us in 2012 and 2013.
I remember you talking about that. I want to say it was something like 23-25 players over a two year period that we recruited who either didn't make it to campus or left before a year and a half.
In essence we signed two half sized recruiting classes. That is worse then what the NCAA inflicted on Penn State and USC for cheating.
Posted on 7/30/17 at 2:47 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
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He wasn't bad against the run
Which is a great trait for anyone not in the secondary.......
Posted on 7/30/17 at 6:56 pm to russellvillehog
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2013 was 100% a 8-4 year at best under bobby.
Absolutely, and that's being generous.
People forget how big of a trash fire our roster was in 2013 due to the bust rate in those 2010 and 2011, which would've constituted the core of upper classmen that year.
Outside of Travis Swanson, our offensive line consisted of guys like David Hurd (walk-on), Grady Ollison (finished his career at Henderson State as a DT), Cordale Boyd (ended up as a DL) and two true freshmen in Skipper and Kirkland.
Austin Jones, Price Holmes and a true freshman Brooks Ellis all started or logged a significant number of snaps at LB.
Mitchell Loewen (ended up as a DE) was our starting TE before being displaced by a true freshman Hunter Henry.
Excepting the freshmen class Bert brought in, that roster was exceptionally limited in talent and had no depth whatsoever. People can say what they want about Long, some deservedly so, but he was absolutely right to tell Bert that 2013 essentially wasn't going to count.
This post was edited on 7/30/17 at 7:15 pm
Posted on 7/30/17 at 7:09 pm to Feral
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two true freshmen in Skipper and Kirkland.
These two were brought in by Bielema. We would have been even worse on the line without them.
Posted on 7/30/17 at 7:13 pm to TheCheshireHog
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These two were brought in by Bielema. We would have been even worse on the line without them.
Exactly, which is why I wanted to highlight them as well when taking about our OL situation that year. We would've been *much* worse off both in 2013 and beyond had Bielema not been able to land those two.
Posted on 7/31/17 at 9:29 am to Feral
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2013 was 100% a 8-4 year at best under bobby.
Absolutely, and that's being generous.
I think Bobby can fall out of bed and win 8 games. He is one of the best playcallers I've ever seen and can do more with less.
He doesn't need great talent because he is really good at scheming.
Posted on 7/31/17 at 9:45 am to boogiewoogie1978
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I think Bobby can fall out of bed and win 8 games. He is one of the best playcallers I've ever seen and can do more with less. He doesn't need great talent because he is really good at scheming.
He only won 9 games with the Heisman Trophy winner because his offensive line was horrendous.
He's a great playcaller, but there are weaknesses you can't scheme around, specifically the OL and back seven. That 2013 OL probably gets Brandon Allen or Brandon Mitchell killed, especially when it doesn't include Skipper or Kirkland. We also don't have Alex Collins on the roster in this hypothetical, since he was a Bert get.
When you're trotting out the aforementioned Price Holmes and Austin Jones at LB, you're also going on give up an insane amount of points.
Posted on 7/31/17 at 11:03 am to Feral
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When you're trotting out the aforementioned Price Holmes and Austin Jones at LB, you're also going on give up an insane amount of points.
Thank you for those horrible flashbacks Feral.
Posted on 7/31/17 at 1:05 pm to Feral
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He only won 9 games with the Heisman Trophy winner because his offensive line was horrendous.
He still won 9 though.
Posted on 7/31/17 at 1:51 pm to boogiewoogie1978
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He still won 9 though.
With one of the most dynamic college football players of the last 25 years. That's the point. Show me the Heisman winner on the 2013 roster.
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