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re: Fayetteville alderman harasses woman and threatens to whip out penis at Arsaga's

Posted on 3/20/16 at 8:55 pm to
Posted by STLhog
Nashville, TN
Member since Jan 2015
17718 posts
Posted on 3/20/16 at 8:55 pm to
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Well, you're clearly an idiot.


Because I don't believe taking bolt cutters to a locked up bike is a good thing to do?

I'm not a huge fan.

Obviously Karma wasn't on his side since he broke his leg trying to ride said bike. Which I think is hilarious btw.
This post was edited on 3/20/16 at 8:56 pm
Posted by Porker Face
Eden Isle
Member since Feb 2012
15335 posts
Posted on 3/20/16 at 11:00 pm to
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I'm more put off by the so called boycott than that guys comment, so no, wasn't joking.


Well if anyone said those things in my workplace I would've called the cops per policy and the cops would ask the person if they wanted to press harassment charges

Dumbass
Posted by Pigfeet
Ark Mods are Fascists
Member since Mar 2010
19783 posts
Posted on 3/21/16 at 5:27 am to
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Well if anyone said those things in my workplace I would've called the cops per policy and the cops would ask the person if they wanted to press harassment charges

Dumbass



Good grief, you are so triggered over a figure of speech. Maybe you should grow a pair or just run to your safe space.

Now call the cops, Sally.
Posted by Porker Face
Eden Isle
Member since Feb 2012
15335 posts
Posted on 3/21/16 at 7:32 am to
quote:

Well if anyone said those things in my workplace I would've called the cops per policy and the cops would ask the person if they wanted to press harassment charges

Dumbass


Emphasis added for the dense

It's a different world we live in now. You can accept it or bitch for another 20 years and then accept it. Only one of those options makes you look like a raging dumbass
Posted by Hog on the Hill
AR
Member since Jun 2009
13389 posts
Posted on 3/21/16 at 9:13 am to
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Because I don't believe taking bolt cutters to a locked up bike is a good thing to do?

I'm not a huge fan.

Obviously Karma wasn't on his side since he broke his leg trying to ride said bike. Which I think is hilarious btw.
No, you're an idiot for ignoring the circumstances and nuance in what happened. As wmr said, the owner said she didn't blame him, that she probably would have done the same thing if she'd seen it sitting abandoned and rusting away, and she chose not to press charges. In her eyes, no crime was committed.

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Posted by STLhog
Nashville, TN
Member since Jan 2015
17718 posts
Posted on 3/21/16 at 10:35 am to
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the owner said she didn't blame him


Yet she reported it stolen?

Look whatever man, you can try and excuse it all you want. He shouldn't have done it in his position and coming up with some ridiculous justification rather than just saying I f-ed up is what pissed me off. He was in public position and should have known better than anyone to go through the correct channels.

I know it a minor thing but for someone that acts holier than though when it comes to "green", renewable etc and also admitting he's been a bit of a burnout, I've got no patience.

Call me an idiot all you want, but that is how I feel about it.
This post was edited on 3/21/16 at 10:36 am
Posted by Hog on the Hill
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Member since Jun 2009
13389 posts
Posted on 3/21/16 at 10:50 am to
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Yet she reported it stolen?

Look whatever man, you can try and excuse it all you want. He shouldn't have done it in his position and coming up with some ridiculous justification rather than just saying I f-ed up is what pissed me off. He was in public position and should have known better than anyone to go through the correct channels.

I know it a minor thing but for someone that acts holier than though when it comes to "green", renewable etc and also admitting he's been a bit of a burnout, I've got no patience.

Call me an idiot all you want, but that is how I feel about it.
You have committed yourself to believing in your assumption that he manufactured an ad hoc explanation of his behavior. What makes you so committed to this assumption, versus the alternative and very plausible possibility that it was actually his reasoning before he ever cut the chain?

Furthermore, he did say he fricked up. He wrote an entire article in the Fayetteville Flyer admitting his mistake and saying what he'd learned from it. In other words, EXACTLY the kind of behavior you would expect from someone who realized he'd made a mistake and decided to make the best of it--to use that mistake as a learning opportunity. He owned up to it in a very public way.

I think you're being very irrational about this.

edit: Furthermore, your charge that he is "holier than thou" is based on what? Just the fact that he's committed to the "green" concept, recycling, etc? I don't see someone acting "holier than thou", I see someone who believes in the concept and is passionate about incorporating those ideas into his community as an act of service. Do you doubt his sincerity or convictions? Would you rather have more aldermen like John La Tour--let's set aside his recent actions and focus solely on his apparent lack of enthusiasm and competency. You want more of that?
This post was edited on 3/21/16 at 10:54 am
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 3/21/16 at 10:54 am to
I don't understand this, either.

People who think they can discredit everything Matt Petty has done for the city by typing "bike thief" are pretty committed to being assholes. I don't necessarily like Petty, but criticize him on where you disagree with him, not on some relatively minor lapse of personal judgment from 7 years ago. It's stupid.
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 3/21/16 at 10:54 am to
I don't understand this, either.

People who think they can discredit everything Matt Petty has done for the city by typing "bike thief" are pretty committed to being assholes. I don't necessarily like Petty, but criticize him on where you disagree with him, not on some relatively minor lapse of personal judgment from 7 years ago. It's stupid.
Posted by hogfly
Fayetteville, AR
Member since May 2014
4640 posts
Posted on 3/21/16 at 11:48 am to
And really, Petty "liberating" that bike was an attempt to upcycle a perceived piece of trash. He (as did most people) thought the bike had been abandoned as it had been in the same spot for a prolonged period of time (over 5 months). He was trying to take one man's perceived trash and turn it into something.

More concerning to me is Petty's reported smoking at a bar in public when he is known as a vocal supporter of smoking bans. Of course, one could also spin that and say that he votes against his own self interest in favor of the overall public good.

He's a good alderman, though, and he's done a lot for the city. I do think he's moving from politically active citizen and public servant to full on Politician, which is hard to do and remain ethically upstanding. That being said, if he can get positive things accomplished for the city, a little dirty hands are expected at a certain point if you're making a career in politics. I'd prefer someone who is effective and perhaps ultimately self serving (Coody) to someone who is ineffective but ethical (Jordan).

This post was edited on 3/21/16 at 11:51 am
Posted by STLhog
Nashville, TN
Member since Jan 2015
17718 posts
Posted on 3/21/16 at 12:54 pm to
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I'd prefer someone who is effective and perhaps ultimately self serving (Coody) to someone who is ineffective but ethical (Jordan).



LOL perhaps? But fair point, I think Jordan is ethical per say but his loyalty to Don Marr is questionable in my eyes after all the crap that went down.

It's like some kind of uppity left wing GOBN if that's even possible.

Petty has done a lot of seemingly hypocritical shite around town, and he absolutely elicits that holier than thou crap that a lot of people can't stand. His "serving" of the community reeks of I simply want to be the next mayor in my eyes.

To me he seems like a character off of Portlandia.
Posted by Hog on the Hill
AR
Member since Jun 2009
13389 posts
Posted on 3/21/16 at 1:15 pm to
I don't understand what you think is disingenuous about an alderman wanting to be mayor someday.

In your view, what has he done that's hypocritical?
Posted by STLhog
Nashville, TN
Member since Jan 2015
17718 posts
Posted on 3/21/16 at 1:29 pm to
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I don't understand what you think is disingenuous about an alderman wanting to be mayor someday.


Didn't say disingenuous. I'm saying he is very clearly ambitious and seems to be cut from the same thread as Dan Coody. Also not saying there is anything wrong with that but one could argue personal ambition can get in the way of the better community good. I think this became very clear with Coody towards the end of his tenure, hence why he lost a shite ton of support from a previously loyal voter pool.

I've heard stories of the smoking, the bike incident, how he really doesn't have a job and first hand experiences at a local business I used to work at while in High School and College. No reason to go into details there.

He's just not my cup of tea and a lot of his initiatives and agendas represent many of the truly negative stereo types against our millennial generation.

NWA light rail? I'm all for improving NWA and support a lot of things that have been done but give me a break. That is such a pipe dream.

Also agree he's 5x better than this La Tool jackass, but he honestly sounds like someone that should never be associated with Fayetteville. ever. Pretty shocked reading this whole thing honestly, mostly in that someone like that would ever get elected, regardless of the ward.
This post was edited on 3/21/16 at 1:56 pm
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 3/21/16 at 2:23 pm to
quote:

I'd prefer someone who is effective and perhaps ultimately self serving (Coody) to someone who is ineffective but ethical (Jordan).


Word.
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 3/21/16 at 2:27 pm to
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I think this became very clear with Coody towards the end of his tenure, hence why he lost a shite ton of support from a previously loyal voter pool.


Coody got too involved with private/public partnerships and the real estate tank proved his ultimate undoing.

Still, it took a run-off with Steve Clark (the actual "pro-business" voters) endorsement to get Lioneld into office. First round, Coody still got more votes than Lioneld.

I don't trust Lioneld and I don't think he's above the fray. He characterized so much stuff from Coody's tenure like the current Transportation Improvement Plan as "debt!" during the election, yet that sorry arse motherfricker has held a ribbon cutting with himself as keynote speaker at every little capital improvement project from that program, including the damned roudabout in front of Washington Regional.

Jordan is super SJW mayor and listens to the Omni Center way too much. I don't think that makes him virtuous as much as it makes him a virtue-signaling SJW.

Posted by STLhog
Nashville, TN
Member since Jan 2015
17718 posts
Posted on 3/21/16 at 2:32 pm to
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I don't trust Lioneld and I don't think he's above the fray. He characterized so much stuff from Coody's tenure like the current Transportation Improvement Plan as "debt!" during the election, yet that sorry arse motherfricker has held a ribbon cutting with himself as keynote speaker at every little capital improvement project from that program, including the damned roudabout in front of Washington Regional.

Jordan is super SJW mayor and listens to the Omni Center way too much. I don't think that makes him virtuous as much as it makes him a virtue-signaling SJW.



100% with you man. Like I said, the entire Don Marr fiasco was just bizarre and I'm amazed he still attaches himself to him.

Actually not really, since I don't think Lioneld had a clue what was going on when he began initially. Might have learned a thing or two now but I characterize him as a waving hand more or less.

Bring back Fred!
Posted by hogfly
Fayetteville, AR
Member since May 2014
4640 posts
Posted on 3/21/16 at 2:33 pm to
While I think that NWA light rail IS probably a dream... damn would it ever be sweet and solve a lot of problems.

We just don't have the population density to warrant it currently.

But being able to hop on a train with my bike and head up to Slaughter Pen and Crystal Bridges for the day, ride the Greenway down to Rogers. Grab some beers at Ozark. Then head back to the light rail to catch it back down to Fayetteville. Then ride home from the station. That would be some seriously awesome stuff.
This post was edited on 3/21/16 at 2:35 pm
Posted by STLhog
Nashville, TN
Member since Jan 2015
17718 posts
Posted on 3/21/16 at 2:39 pm to
quote:

But being able to hop on a train with my bike and head up to Slaughter Pen and Crystal Bridges for the day, ride the Greenway down to Rogers. Grab some beers at Ozark. Then head back to the light rail to catch it back down to Fayetteville. Then ride home from the station. That would be some seriously awesome stuff.


LOL yea I'm with you.

But you know what else would be awesome? Bi-passing Bella Vista on my way to and from this Missouri crap hole.

Not that Petty has a whole lot to do with that, just saying, lot's of bridges we still need to build/cross before even talking about Mass Transit in NWA. It would be insanely expensive.

To put it into perspective, Denver is JUST NOW getting their rail out to the airport. Granted its far a hell, but still shocks me it's taken this long.
Posted by Porker Face
Eden Isle
Member since Feb 2012
15335 posts
Posted on 3/21/16 at 3:34 pm to
I think Kit Williams is the man behind the curtain. Watching meetings like I have, he seems to run shite
Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 3/21/16 at 4:55 pm to
Light rail in NWA will never be feasible unless light rail becomes a helluva lot cheaper to build and maintain than it currently is.

Self-driving cars and smart highways and improved fuel-efficiency will kill most of the arguments for light rail within 20 years anyway.
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