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Posted on 6/1/17 at 5:29 pm to
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 6/1/17 at 5:29 pm to
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did manage to almost die floating the Buffalo in high water. Wish the Kings water level would have been good. I was looking forward to that.




If you haven't come close to death on the Buffalo then you've never really floated the Buffalo.
Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
24112 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 1:08 pm to
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If you haven't come close to death on the Buffalo then you've never really floated the Buffalo


It's as the tamest, most scenic river I've paddled. Even during it's "advanced paddlers only" height. But if they're renting boats, it's mild. I wouldn't be too worried about a certain point above flood stage. But if prefer a kayak instead of a canoe overloaded with beer and ice. As long as the storm is not so heavy, you have a bunch of washed up trees. It's just suicide if the storm is severe.
This post was edited on 6/5/17 at 1:10 pm
Posted by hogfly
Fayetteville, AR
Member since May 2014
4634 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 3:54 pm to
quote:

It's as the tamest, most scenic river I've paddled. Even during it's "advanced paddlers only" height. But if they're renting boats, it's mild. I wouldn't be too worried about a certain point above flood stage. But if prefer a kayak instead of a canoe overloaded with beer and ice. As long as the storm is not so heavy, you have a bunch of washed up trees. It's just suicide if the storm is severe.


Agreed. Buffalo is easy. Paddled my then 7 and 9 year old on it a couple of years back with me the only real paddler and them just along for the ride in the canoe. Only had 6" of airspace under Ponca low water bridge. We made it from Ponca to Kyle's in about 2 hours.

Mulberry can get hairy... but Arkansas doesn't really have any truly scary whitewater unless you paddle water that's only navigable after serious rains (Upper Hailstone, Richland, Upper Kings for example).
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 4:49 pm to
I'd add the Cossatot to that list of scary rapids post a little rain.

Easily Class IV.
Posted by Hog on the Hill
AR
Member since Jun 2009
13389 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 9:15 am to
How are the rivers in early September? Buffalo, Kings, whatever. I just need a decent float because I'm bringing my girlfriend from NYC, and she's never been on a river before.
Posted by Columbia
Land of the Yuppies
Member since Mar 2016
3132 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 1:31 pm to
I normally float when river is around 500 cf/s, which I really enjoy. The other day it was 0 air space and 1520 cf/s. I didn't have any business out there, but lesson learned
Posted by hogfly
Fayetteville, AR
Member since May 2014
4634 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 2:15 pm to
quote:

How are the rivers in early September? Buffalo, Kings, whatever. I just need a decent float because I'm bringing my girlfriend from NYC, and she's never been on a river before.




Usually low in early September, but a freak rainstorm or weather pattern can bring everything up pretty quickly.
Posted by Hog on the Hill
AR
Member since Jun 2009
13389 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 7:11 am to
Too low to be worth it?
Posted by hogfly
Fayetteville, AR
Member since May 2014
4634 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 7:44 am to
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Too low to be worth it?


I mean.. if you want her to experience dragging a canoe down a river, then it will be great.

In all seriousness, it really just depends. It could be ridiculously low if we're in a drought pattern through August (which can definitely happen), but it would be very floatable if we've started getting rain.

Basically, though, the rivers get charged in the Spring with spring rains then drop throughout the summer, becoming nearly unfloatable in July and August (barring freak thunderstorms.. my earlier mentioned float with 6" of clearance at ponca bridge happened in July after a freak storm). Then they slowly get charged back up over the Fall as we enter into more wet weather... but the water and weather is also cold by October, so not that many people float then.
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25174 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 7:51 am to
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It's as the tamest, most scenic river I've paddled


Oh no, I didn't mean from tipping over or rapids. I meant if you happen to paddle it during low water. Consistently having to drag a canoe will do you in sooner or later.
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 12:03 pm to
quote:

How are the rivers in early September? Buffalo, Kings, whatever. I just need a decent float because I'm bringing my girlfriend from NYC, and she's never been on a river before.


You need to familiarize yourself with that good levels are on each river.

Here's a starting point. There are apps with this information you can download to your phone, as well.

LINK /
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 12:03 pm to
quote:

How are the rivers in early September? Buffalo, Kings, whatever. I just need a decent float because I'm bringing my girlfriend from NYC, and she's never been on a river before.


You need to familiarize yourself with that good levels are on each river.

Here's a starting point. There are apps with this information you can download to your phone, as well.

LINK /
Posted by hogfly
Fayetteville, AR
Member since May 2014
4634 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 12:35 pm to
And I should add that you can likely float the lower Buffalo in September (pretty much year round), but it will have almost zero current and be like paddling on a lake which means you need to adjust your ideas about distance as you will get very little movement from the current. It's a very pretty area, though, and great for fishing, but you need to enjoy paddling... a lot. Some of the sections also need to be done via an overnight because the distance between put in and take out is too great to paddle in a single day.


This post was edited on 6/8/17 at 12:38 pm
Posted by Porky
Member since Aug 2008
19103 posts
Posted on 6/12/17 at 4:49 pm to
quote:

I liked the Crescent

It's an interesting place.

Check it out sometime around the last days of April or the first days of May, or whenever it has just a few guests. It is spooky.


This post was edited on 6/13/17 at 12:44 am
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 6/15/17 at 9:16 am to
The darkest blue county in Arkansas is Carroll County,
home of Eureka Springs.

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