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re: EDIT: 50/50 was 1 down, 7 to go..No 3 down,1 to go 4 still around! Death Penalty...

Posted on 4/21/17 at 11:30 am to
Posted by ocelot4ark
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 4/21/17 at 11:30 am to
I think I'm pretty much to the point where I think the death penalty shouldn't be an option. The fact that innocent people are mistakenly killed OCCASSIONALLY makes it an illegitimate form of capital punishment. No American citizen should ever be collateral damage in pursuit of justice. Kinda back to the days of, "I'd rather let 1000 guilty men go free than let 1 innocent man rot in prison." Except - I'd rather let every last guilty 1st degree murderer spend the rest of their lives in prison than take the chance that we'd execute someone that was proven to be innocent down the line. Add in the element of cost and I don't see how a state can afford to take the risk, or how the citizens can stomach a government being so cavalier with the most important thing on earth.
Posted by Pigfeet
Ark Mods are Fascists
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 4/21/17 at 12:02 pm to
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No American citizen should ever be collateral damage in pursuit of justice.


There goes our military
Posted by Litigator
Hog Jaw, Arkansas
Member since Oct 2013
7535 posts
Posted on 4/21/17 at 12:07 pm to
In.

And also let's not forget Kenneth D. Williams, another death row inmate slated for execution before getting a stay.

He killed a UAPB cheerleader and was serving a sentence of life imprisonment without parole when he escaped from prison and murdered a farmer near the prison. LINK LINK All told, he was responsible for the deaths of four people including confessing to murdering a man the same day he murdered the cheerleader. Yet some question why we should ever have the death penalty.
Posted by Pigfeet
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19783 posts
Posted on 4/21/17 at 12:09 pm to
People should always question the govt, that's why the 2nd amendment exists
Posted by Pigfeet
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Posted on 4/21/17 at 12:17 pm to


Equal pay, bitches
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37295 posts
Posted on 4/21/17 at 12:30 pm to
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Equal pay, bitches


My best gal friend- who's also a hottie btw- makes more than probably 99.9% of the men I know.

I make more than most where I work- but I am family so by damn I better.

The only time I knowingly made less than someone for an equal job (and I had experience and helped train them) was when I was at acx and I knew simply because the person printed their payroll info off on the group printer and I happened upon it accidentally. And that person was a black gal, so...

You honestly better be treating me equal tho- or I punch back much better than that dirty dread head.
Posted by PygmalionEffect
Member since Jul 2012
4834 posts
Posted on 4/21/17 at 12:40 pm to
The death penalty wouldn't be as expensive if it was administered in a more timely manner.

If they are going to be on death row for 25 years, then yeah, get rid of it.

Five years from original guilty verdict gives plenty of time for appeals and decreases the length of time the convict is incarcerated which generates the savings vs a life sentence.


Always get a chuckle at the posters with the opinion that the death penalty is preferred by the accused over a life sentence. Just not using the ole noggin in coming up with that pearl of ignorance.
Posted by sugatowng
Look at my bling Bitches
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Posted on 4/21/17 at 12:44 pm to
Eye for an Eye...I would have volunteered to be a witness
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
American dissident
Member since Nov 2013
35818 posts
Posted on 4/21/17 at 1:01 pm to
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whew, the lady from Ch 7 KATV who witnessed the execution seemed to be very shaken when she came to the camera to give her report.


tough shite for her - then don't watch it

I wouldn't want to see it either

Sounds like she's trying to become part of the story
Posted by Pigfeet
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Posted on 4/21/17 at 1:02 pm to
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My best gal friend- who's also a hottie btw-


Pics or gtfo
Posted by sugatowng
Look at my bling Bitches
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25329 posts
Posted on 4/21/17 at 1:31 pm to
I'm going to have to agree with Pigfeet for once...
Posted by ArHog
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32950 posts
Posted on 4/21/17 at 3:35 pm to
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Five years from original guilty verdict gives plenty of time for appeals and decreases the length of time the convict is incarcerated which generates the savings vs a life sentence.


Posted by Pigfeet
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Member since Mar 2010
19783 posts
Posted on 4/21/17 at 3:48 pm to
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for once


#fakeNews
Posted by hawgfaninc
https://youtu.be/torc9P4-k5A
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 4/21/17 at 4:07 pm to
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I for one think the death penalty is an easy way out for these bastards, but cruel and unusual punishment is against the law.
Posted by vengeanceofrain
depends
Member since Jun 2013
12465 posts
Posted on 4/21/17 at 6:58 pm to
it'snot used eoguh and it is not harsh enough. If you rape and kill someone, burning someone alive is not curel and unusual punishment imho. i am extremely pro death penalty. some people do to deserve to live.
Posted by ocelot4ark
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2009
12458 posts
Posted on 4/24/17 at 2:18 am to
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There goes our military



I should have said, "civilian." And individual justice/liberty.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 4/25/17 at 7:01 pm to
thread title needs an update
Posted by Pigfeet
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 12:05 pm to
Time to get this 4th one tomorrow
Posted by Litigator
Hog Jaw, Arkansas
Member since Oct 2013
7535 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 7:32 pm to
Hopefully.

Then we need to get to the rest of them without undue delay.
Posted by ThundrHawg
The Flagship™
Member since Sep 2010
3208 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 9:23 pm to
I feel they had this figured out millennia ago but I'm not sure how to implement it now. If someone has done something so heinous they have to be permanently banished from society then do just that. Banishment is by far the most elegant solution as long as it's permanent but I'm not sure how to accomplish that in the modern age. Maybe ship them all to North Korea? If you could permanently banish criminals you would have no cost, no moral issues of the state deciding life/death. The criminals would have no opportunity to infect society with their ideas or offspring. No interviews or book deals. No internet marriages or fan clubs. They are gone with no notoriety.
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