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re: Did we ever discuss Saturday's pooch kick?

Posted on 9/25/17 at 8:58 pm to
Posted by FleaMarketBill
Mayor of Wizard Township
Member since Apr 2010
12840 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 8:58 pm to
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Of course it lands in the hands of Mr. 12th Man Tarzan who has Red Bull for blood.


Haha
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55305 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 9:35 pm to
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Of course it lands in the hands of Mr. 12th Man Tarzan who has Red Bull for blood.



That walk on is definitely unhinged, Tennessee fans hated him for the violence he unleashed in our game with them last year
Posted by ElDawgHawg
L.A. (lower Arkansas)
Member since Nov 2012
2983 posts
Posted on 9/26/17 at 11:39 am to
squib would have made more sense.... but if we play defense it's a moot point.
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25196 posts
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:58 pm to
The thing is... we gave up a TD return on the long kick before that. Bad.

Until then we had been having a whale of a game with regular kick offs. We had a couple of kickoffs where A&M was starting around the 15 yard line.

Kick it deep. Yeah, we had one go bad the time before but sometimes that just happens. Kick it deep and the odds are they start around the 20 or 25.
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29452 posts
Posted on 9/26/17 at 3:22 pm to
Analytics say you're statistically better to kick to the goal line than to kick a touchback now that they start on the 25. They do the same thing in the pros and every one of those kickers can kick a mile.

That said, frick analytics. My philosophy is every kickoff/punt that doesn't result in a big play is a win. Big returns are HUGE for momentum swings.

Best case scenario you pin them inside their own 5. Even in that extremely rare case it doesn't change momentum much. And if they have one decent play to get away from the goal line it's all for naught.

But the flip side is you run the risk of a big return or (worst-case scenario) a TD return.

IMO the risk outweighs the reward even if statistics say otherwise. Statistics don't take into consideration how deflating it is to give up a return TD. And analytics don't take into consideration the danger of specific players like Kirk whose numbers are probably underrated due to the fact most teams refuse to kick to him.

Good case where common sense should prevail over hard numbers.
Posted by cubsfan5150
Member since Nov 2007
15770 posts
Posted on 9/26/17 at 4:41 pm to
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They do the same thing in the pros and every one of those kickers can kick a mile.


Actually, touchbacks are up quite a bit since the KO rule changes.
Posted by Rzrbackguy
Apalachicola, FL
Member since Jul 2014
2213 posts
Posted on 9/29/17 at 4:51 pm to
Hire Kevin Kelly from PA and go to onside kicks on every kickoff. At least there'd be some reason to watch.

Our special teams are deplorable.
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